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Enhanced Shadow Spawn

the only give away that a shadow spawn has been enhanced is they are larger by 30% and there eyes are now totaly black.

A Enhanced Shadow Spawn gains Powers from the Dark One

Damage reduction
1-3 Hit Dice none
4-7 Hit Dice 5/+1
8-11 Hit Dice 5/+2
12+ Hit Dice 5/+3
Dark Powers

0-3 Hit Dice Dark Ones Eyes
4-7 Hit Dice Dark Ones own luck x2
8-11 Hit Dice Supression of the One Power +3 , Dark Ones own luck x1
12-16 Hit Dice Bond Servant, Suppresion of the One Power +6
17+ Hit Dice Supression of the One Power +9,
Dark Ones Eyes by serving as a conduit for the dark ones power the dark one can observe and unfluence thing through them (treat like telepathic link)
Suppresion of the one power: whenever a channler wants to channel in the presance (50 foot radius) of a Enhanced Shadow Spawn they do so at +3,+6 or +9 the casting cost
Bond Servant: Simular to Bond Warder but it is twisted so that reigns of control are far more harsh and the whole bond is only benifitial to the shadowspawn
Slower Aging: n/a
Compell to Obey: saves are made at -5
Connection: same as bond warder
Energy: same as bond warder Enhanced Shadow Spawn can take energy when he needs it even with out the servants consent
Proximity: same as Bond Warder but with a -5 penalty to resist
resistance: n/a
When the enhanced shadow spawn dies so to does all the bonded servants much the same way that all the trollocs in a trollic link die
Weave Resistance
15 + cha score of shadow spawn (includes penalties)

Saves
Same as Base Creature but +2

Feats, Skills
Same as Base Creature

CR
Same as Base Creature but 2 higher

Shaidar Haran "hand of the dark"

Enhanced Myridrall/Armsmen lv 6/Blade Master/2

Hit Dice: (17 HD) 9d8 +36, + 6d10 + 24, 2d10 +8
Initive: +6
Speed: 40 feet
Defence: 31 (+6 Dex +2 natural +4 black plate + 5 Armsmen +4 Def bonus
Attacks: Master Piece Shadow-Blade +23/+18/+13/+8/+3
Damage: Shadow-Blade 1d10 +4 and disease
Special Attacks: Shadow-Blade, Diseaase, Fear Gaze,
Special Qualities: Blind Sight, Dark Vitality, Damage Reduction*, Trollic Link, One Sence, Shadow walk, Weave Resistance*, Suppresion of the One Power*,Parting the Silk (lv 8), Increased Multipliers (1/day)
Saves: Fort +20 Ref +18 Will +12
Abilities: Str 18, Dex 22, Con 18, Int 16, Wis, 15, Cha 16
Skills: Hide +12, Listen +12, Move Silently +12, Spot +12, Invert , Intimidate +13, Balance+ 12
Feats:, Armor Compatabilty, Cleave, Dodge, Mobility, Combat Expertise, Power Attack, Weapon Specialization (Shadow-Blade),Combat Reflexses, Spring Attack
Whirlwind Attack, Improved Critical

*Damage Reduction: 5/+3
*Weave Resistance: 17
*One Power Supression: +9

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Posted: Jul 7 2004, 09:11 PM
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Whoa! This makes a lot of sense as far as describing Haran. I think this is way awesome. Although, wouldn't the Challenge Code be increased by 2? You're adding weaves, weave resistance, and damage reduction to creatures that are already quite powerful without those things. Shaidar's quite imposing. He bosses around and intimidates Forsaken, you know?


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Posted: Jul 7 2004, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (Two Rivers Wolfbrother @ Jul 7 2004, 07:11 PM)
Whoa! This makes a lot of sense as far as describing Haran. I think this is way awesome. Although, wouldn't the Challenge Code be increased by 2? You're adding weaves, weave resistance, and damage reduction to creatures that are already quite powerful without those things. Shaidar's quite imposing. He bosses around and intimidates Forsaken, you know?


im glad you like it

sure make it tqo higher i took my insperation from spell stitched undead for 3rd so i went with the +1 but +2 is good




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Posted: Jul 7 2004, 09:18 PM
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Is this for the Encounters Handbook?


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Posted: Jul 7 2004, 09:27 PM
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things to note humaniod shadow spawn only (has human stock)

if the shadow spawns wisdom is too low to allow weaves they still get rge passive effects of being a channler any skills that a channler can take they can take, weave sight etcc if they gain a significant amount of wisdom they will then recieve the rest of the channler abilities


Trollocs wisdom 10 no weaves example Norg
greymen wisdom 10 no weaves
Draghkar Wisdom 14 has one power
myridrall Wisdom 14 has one power example Shaidar Haran
Gholam Wisdom 15 has one power

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QUOTE (Two Rivers Wolfbrother @ Jul 7 2004, 07:18 PM)
Is this for the Encounters Handbook?

ya i thought that was why i out the arrow thingy


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Posted: Jul 7 2004, 11:27 PM
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I like the idea of the enhanced Shadowspawn, but don't think it reflects Haran that well...Haran is completely unique since he is literally the Hand of the Shadow. In some manner he is, at the very least, a direct receptacle for the Dark One's power and he wields the True Power. I'd make him waaaaaay more powerful, since he can kick Forsaken around when he wants to. But I do think the template is pretty cool all the same. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Entropic_existence @ Jul 7 2004, 09:27 PM)
I like the idea of the enhanced Shadowspawn, but don't think it reflects Haran that well...Haran is completely unique since he is literally the Hand of the Shadow. In some manner he is, at the very least, a direct receptacle for the Dark One's power and he wields the True Power. I'd make him waaaaaay more powerful, since he can kick Forsaken around when he wants to. But I do think the template is pretty cool all the same. smile.gif

shaidar haran in the novels only used a little pne power and i figured the conjunction talant would blend nicely with the whole master aspect of him but maybe shaidar haran has ranks in initate as well giving him more weaves and such

but the forsaken are channlers and he can ressit the one power making him very hard to compell or otherwise tamper with making the forsaken large hp peasonts to him so ya he can still kick there asses in this respect even without adding lv in initiate but i did anyways becuase it would me pure power and rather like fun to see what would happen to him still balefire would kill him in one hit but then again balefire kills everything.. did some one say cuelendar Black plate or was it just me

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Shaidar Haran can deny followers of the Shadow (at least) the ability to channel. I don't know about you but when a True Power (not one Power) wielding Fade, who can deny me (as a Forsaken) from touching the One Power, let alone the True Power...and appears to be literally some sort of incarnation/avatar/power receptacle for the Great Lord of the Dark himself....I'd be very afraid. Plus all this alone makes him impossible to do up as a character. It's like making stats for Gods in DnD, completely pointless. (Yes I know some settings do have stats for gods, and they are killable, etc but that is different heh.)


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Posted: Jul 8 2004, 04:06 AM
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ya i forgott about that whole suppresion aspect but still this is a good way to have a shaidar haranesque villian


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Posted: Jul 8 2004, 07:26 AM
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Heh, Shaidar Haran, Superfade.

I loved that description of him.


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Posted: Jul 11 2004, 02:30 AM
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I love this, its great...one criticism, though. I think to the nature of what gholam are (one power feeders) they should not be able to channel. That's just inherently broken, in my oppinion.

Otherwise, I like this a lot! I cant wait to through something like this at my characters!

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Posted: Jul 11 2004, 06:09 AM
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I always got the impression that shadar haran never used the one power, only the true power.
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Posted: Jul 11 2004, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (bmtc @ Jul 10 2004, 08:09 PM)
I always got the impression that shadar haran never used the one power, only the true power.

I don't think Shadar Haran uses either. He's got some odd abilities, but it doesn't seem similar to either anyone's channeling or Moridishy's use of the True Power.


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QUOTE (Zarozynia @ Jul 10 2004, 07:30 PM)
I love this, its great...one criticism, though. I think to the nature of what gholam are (one power feeders) they should not be able to channel. That's just inherently broken, in my oppinion.

Otherwise, I like this a lot! I cant wait to through something like this at my characters!

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well it is still in for some tweeking so i conceed that the one power on a gholam would be just plain wrong (fun but wrong biggrin.gif )

i will think on this and find the appropriate wording


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Maybe they can just have the ability to cut people off from the One Power. Does Shaidar actually USE the True Power, or does he just cut people off? Or, maybe gholams, as beings unable to be touched by the One Power, cannot channel simply for that reason.


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QUOTE (Two Rivers Wolfbrother @ Jul 11 2004, 06:35 PM)
Maybe they can just have the ability to cut people off from the One Power. Does Shaidar actually USE the True Power, or does he just cut people off? Or, maybe gholams, as beings unable to be touched by the One Power, cannot channel simply for that reason.

SH has definitely cut both men and women off from the One Power (though he's never done this with anyone not sworn to the Dark One), and has produced some sort of odd black flames. Nothing that's convention channeling, or even True Power-esque, IMO, but pretty hard to come up with mechanics for.


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Nothing that's convention channeling, or even True Power-esque

It would be more like the Myddraal ability to teleport in the shadow. Aginor killed a lot of Myddraal trying to determine how they did it, but didn't manage to figure it out: it's just a special ability that hasn't anything to do with the OP or the TP.

I see SH's powers much the same way. They are special abilities the DO gave him, and cannot be understood by means of channeling.
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Maybe they don't get the ability to channel, but maybe they get a weave-like ability granted by the DO. Maybe the weave-equivalent level could be based on HD or something, and the higher Charisma they have, the more abilities they get. I dunno.


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I removed the whole Channlers aspect of the enhanced shadow spawn and gave them dark powers instead but if u prefer the old one i will put it back i have both saved maybe Gohlam and Mryidrall get the dark powers all other shadow spawn get the true power

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