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Zarozynia |
Posted: Apr 16 2004, 02:38
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I have an NPC in my campaign who, through experiences
that have happened in the game has decided to travel with my characters to
The White Tower to determine whether she might be able to taught to
channel. I was wondering, does anybody know if there are statistics on the
percentage of woman that have the ability to learn to channel but not to
channel on their own without being taught. I know that I can just make
this decision arbitrarily, but I like to keep my NPCs as chance based (to
a degree) as my players, and therefor I was hoping that somebody knew of
these percentages. For some reason I think that I have heard of these percentages as associated with the ability of a woman to use an a'dam...but I cant seem to find it written anywhere now. ![]() -------------------- Legends of Darkness Are Not Always Myths - An Ongoing
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KSBsnowowl |
Posted: Apr 16 2004, 04:27
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IIRC, Jordan has said that about 1% of the population
either will channel, or could learn. I don't remember how sparkers and
learners divide though; I'd estimate that as probably a 1:10 or 1:20
ratio. But basically, the character should have a 1-2% chance of being
able to be taught to channel. -------------------- Patterns in the Weave: Aermon, son of
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drothgery |
Posted: Apr 16 2004, 05:43
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Jordan has said 1-2% of the population can learn to
channel, but the only place where we have anything close to reliable
numbers (rough estimates of the number of Aeil vs. the number of Wise
Ones) suggest it's closer to .1 -.2 %
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Zarozynia |
Posted: Apr 16 2004, 03:57
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and here I was thinking that there was actually a
possability of her being able to! ![]() oh well! -------------------- Legends of Darkness Are Not Always Myths - An Ongoing
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Zarozynia |
Posted: Apr 16 2004, 09:01
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ah...another question. If, per se, a member of my
party happens to be ta'averen, would this effect these percentages. And if
so, to what degree? -------------------- Legends of Darkness Are Not Always Myths - An Ongoing
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Freya |
Posted: Apr 16 2004, 09:16
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FWIW, I don't think a ta'averan would affect another
person's ability to channel. Being able to channel, either a sparker or
learner, is an in-born thing. It is determined at birth, so spending time
with a ta'averan is not going to affect that. It may affect their access
to channeling stuff (more battles, finding 'once lost' *angreal, etc), but
not their inborn ability to channel or not channel. Now, the ta'averan person probably does have a better chance of 'drawing' a powerful channeler or a wolfbrother or some other rare ability/person to him/her. |
Blue Traveler |
Posted: Apr 16 2004, 09:28
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It may be that the number of females who can channel
is around .1% or so, but the number of female characters who can
channel seems to be up around 50%. Can we take a poll of the main
characters that can and cannot
channel? Channelers: Moiraine Egwene Nynaeve Elayne Avienda Siuan Nonchannelers: Berelain Faile Min Birgitte Morgase I know I've forgotten a few there. But I think the ratio is roughly correct. As for one of the party being ta'veran, I'd say that that makes the probablility either certain or impossible, depending on what you think and what the party needs in the future. Like, if you want to have the PC be captured by the Seanchan and turned into a damane, then she has the spark for the sole reason that it assists the ta'veran's destiny. -------------------- Playing: Norline, Female Shienaran Wilder
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LuciusT |
Posted: Apr 17 2004, 12:27
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Having a ta'veren in the group doesn't "effect the percentages"... it throws them out the window and then laughs at them while the sit stupidly in mud trying to understand what happened. A ta'veren grants the GM the right to do virtually anything in service of the storyline. At it's core, that's what ta'veren is... the aura that causes the most unlikely things to happen around those people later remembered as heroes. | ||
Axel |
Posted: Apr 17 2004, 12:33
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hmm.... heh.... now that's funny.... sorry, I'll
share the joke: assuming somebody has Dark One's Own Luck latent. Born with it, like any other latent feat. Now, can't we assume that this would increase their chance of being a channeler? So, we are left with a naturally lucky latent channeler. -------------------- Honorary Paladin of the Lawful Naughty If I seem to hate the d20 system, its only because I hate the system. Actually I just hate 3e, its biased me against the system. I rather like WoT. |
Zarozynia |
Posted: Apr 17 2004, 01:05
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I know that being around a ta'averen wouldn't affect
somebody's ability channel, which I was thinking was that it might in some
way draw a channeler to the group, because if the chances are that slim
that somebody is a latent channeler, that is exactly the kind of thing
that WOULD happen around a ta'averen. Because as RJ has said, they dont
make the impossible happen, they make the thing happen that would only
happen one in a thousand times. hmmm...if there was only a .1 % chance of her being able to learn to channel, that would be something that would only happen one in a thousand times. ![]() But moreover, I agree with what LuciusT said, that perhaps by having the ta'averen in my party I have to look at it from the persective of, would it be best for the party if she could learn to channel, or not? -------------------- Legends of Darkness Are Not Always Myths - An Ongoing
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shaun |
Posted: Apr 19 2004, 07:55
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the less likely something is to happen normally, the
more likelly it is to happen around a ta'averen. something that normally has a 1/10 chance to happen normally is almost more likely to happen around a ta'averen than something that has a 1/5 chance normally. |
Kathax Mosail Rishaem |
Posted: Apr 19 2004, 07:30
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the way that i see it is this: if you have a ta'varen
in the group, it would allow you a whole lot of lisence, as long as it
went with the purpose of the ta'varen. after all, they are supposed to
accomplish something. the pattern has a purpose for them. usually, they
changes they cause and the effects they have on the surrounding threads
are mostly related to this purpose. or such is my view of things.
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Zarozynia |
Posted: Apr 19 2004, 08:43
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yeah...purpose. My ta'averen is such because he
sounded the horn of valere so therefor (unless he dies) he will be neaded
to help with the last battle. The way that my campaign is going, I think
that my party might end up having to fight Rand in the last battle,
spilling his blood which will save the world. Because I am pretty certain
that he is going to end up turning to the dark one and becoming nael'blis.
Haven't decided for certain yet, but that's my suspicion as to what I will
decide once I get towards that point in time. So by my reckoning, having a
female channeler on his side would only help my party, and given that his
ta'averen abilities can make the near impossible happen, her chances of
being able to channel are astronomically good. Thanks for all the
help! ![]() -------------------- Legends of Darkness Are Not Always Myths - An Ongoing
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Primal Paladin22 |
Posted: Apr 22 2004, 01:50
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How about if a taveran were present at her birth.
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shaun |
Posted: Apr 23 2004, 12:14
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How about the fact that your ta'averen's swirling
effect in the pattern is practically the only reason that the NPC decided
to come along and because of some enourmous fluke, which is to meen
extreemly likely to happen around ta'averen. Having a ta'averen
gives you licence to do annything around them. I mean compare the
chance of someone surviving a fall from several stories up like what
happened around Rand to what might be the only latent channeler in the
village deciding to get tested. It's a lot more likely and as I said
having a ta'averen gives you licence to do annything. |
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