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Blaeric Fen |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:57
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I was under the impression that the A'dam allowed the
sul'dam to basically, point blank, see the channelers, see the glow when
channeling, control the damanes senses, & control the damanes
channeling abilities. so wouldn't an a'dam be a S&M linking device?
where one has the power over the other?
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Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:58
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MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:59
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that's the thing, though, manty. They eventually start noticing that they THEMSELVES can see the weaves cast. It only comes with time using the a'dam, but all sul'dam eventually notice they can weavesight on their own. Remember the supergirl's (and previously, Egeanin's) discovery with the sul'dam? Note that no sul'dam will EVER willingly admit to seeing the weaves. But it does happen. You need to read the books again. ![]() -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
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Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:00
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MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:00
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This is all explained in.... Path of Daggers, is it?
And later, in Winter's Heart, they know that the sul'dam they captured can
see weaves, and it literally takes them a month to make her admit she can
see on her own. That doesn't mean she's a channeler herself, yet.
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Blaeric Fen |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:04
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But she has the ability, how can that work? in a
RPing way of thinking though. -------------------- If you've got nothing to live for, what's the point
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MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:05
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Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:06
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it means she has the weavesight skill as a cross
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Blaeric Fen |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:07
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That explains it Manty, it would be a cross-class
skill at first, souldn't it. -------------------- If you've got nothing to live for, what's the point
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MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:10
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i'd have it that it'll become a class skill
eventaully in the Sul'dam class.... like i said, i'm still working on it.
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Blaeric Fen |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:13
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Like weavesight would be added as a class skill at a
certain level? that makes sense. -------------------- If you've got nothing to live for, what's the point
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MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:16
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pretty much -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
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Sharn Penndroen |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 09:42
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Everyone with arms is born with the ability to swing
a sword, but not everyone has levels in armsman. Levels in initiate
reflect training in wielding the One Power. Moreover, Sul'dam would not even want to admit they could channel if they wanted to. MagusRogue, I'd do the Sul'dam PrC in such a way as their abilities grant Bonus Channeling Feats (including the metaweave feats) to their Damane. If you are doing a 5 level PrC then at 5th level they could grant Create A'dam to their Damane even if they don't meet the prerequisites (i.e. Latent Maker). For some of their Requirements I'd use things like ranks in Diplomacy, and Knowledge Noblity and Royalty and maybe Knowledge Arcana. Remember, any woman can use an A'dam, but Sul'dam have special training and cultural norms that make them different than Nynaeve holding Moghedien on a leash. You follow me? -------------------- I like swords. |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 09:47
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*nods* i follow ya, Sharn. I was also thinking they
could enhance the damage they can do through their a'dam at a certain
level... Also a Forcing ability that gives them bonuses to overchanneling,
stackable with Control features.... Any other abilities through the a'dam
that we haven't seen? And should i make this a 5-level or 10-level class? -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
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Sharn Penndroen |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 09:52
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The more I think about it, I can see a 10 level PrC
out of this. Some abilities to work through their Damane, and some for
themselves (like intimidate bonuses, etc.) A'dam specialization could be
an ability that allows them to use the A'dam to cause more damage (like
you said). Increased ability to Force would be good. The Create A'dam
should be a Tenth Level ability. I just don't think that everyone of them
would have this ability so that would limit it to some extent.
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MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 10:12
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hrm.... I'm thinking a bonus channeling feat every 3
levels... A'dam specialization at 4th.... yeah, Create A'dam either at 8th
or 10th level... go with the standard tradition Iron Will and Presence at
1st level.... ummm... Damane control at 2nd, improved at 7th.... let's
see..... here, lemme list in order of what we got...
that's two slots left open..... or.... should i have less channeling feats... and... Wait, need to have channeling skills available to them... like Weavesight at level 5, and channeling ability at level 8 maybe? what do you think? This post has been edited by MagusRogue on Feb 6 2004, 10:12 PM -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
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Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 10:20
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i'd go with Sharns ideas on this, make them Skill Focus or something -------------------- For Those About To Rock, We Salute You | ||
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