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Mantyluoto
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:04 PM
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by linking you give the leader of the chain additional weave casting level (s). so if 7-13 women linked the leader would be on +2 casting levels.

if she was a 7th initiate with 4/3/3/2/1 (starting from 0 lvl weaves) plus bonus weaves due to stats she would cast weaves as a 9th lvl initiate with 4/4/3/3/2/1 again starting from 0 lvl


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:05 PM
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so basically, overchanneling would be casting a level higher than your wis/int? I think I got it now.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (Mantyluoto @ Feb 6 2004, 02:04 PM)
by linking you give the leader of the chain additional weave casting level (s). so if 7-13 women linked the leader would be on +2 casting levels.

if she was a 7th initiate with 4/3/3/2/1 (starting from 0 lvl weaves) plus bonus weaves due to stats she would cast weaves as a 9th lvl initiate with 4/4/3/3/2/1 again starting from 0 lvl

not true, Manty, at all. Linking is like an Angreal. If you could only cast 6th level weaves due to an Int of 16, and you linked with two other women, that linking bonus is +1, which means you can cast 7th level weaves now without having to overchannel.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:09 PM
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That's what I thought it meant too, magus. IT only increases the power of the spell, not the number of spells per day.


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QUOTE (Blaeric Fen @ Feb 6 2004, 02:05 PM)
so basically, overchanneling would be casting a level higher than your wis/int? I think I got it now.

according to CR's rules interpretations, you cannot Overchannel to raise your max weave limit. You can raise it with Angreal and Linking, though. Complicated, yes. Pain in the ass, yes. but that's the rule.
Overchanneling is to cast a weave of a slot you don't have, so long as it's still within your Weave Limit. So, if you only got a 2nd level weave slot left, and you want to cast a 3rd level weave, you can overchannel. Angreal and linking lets you do the same, but it also lets you break your weave limit.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:12 PM
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I understand it now, if you already use all the 3rd level weaves, you could overchannel to cast a 3rd level weave while using a 2nd level slot?


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (Blaeric Fen @ Feb 6 2004, 02:12 PM)
I understand it now, if you already use all the 3rd level weaves, you could overchannel to cast a 3rd level weave while using a 2nd level slot?

right. So long as you have a Primary Channeling Ability of 13 or higher. If you have a 12 in your PCA, then you have to use an Angreal or Linking to cast a 3rd level weave, no matter how many 3rd level weave slots you have.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:15 PM
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"scratches head"

"closes book"

" and throws it down the stairs"

so basically it allows the leader of the link to gain a bonus to their channeling stat which determines the level of weave they can cast. so if the leader was 9th lvl but couldn't cast 5th lvl weaves by linking and gaining +1 lvl bonus they would now be able to cast 5th weaves. Correct?


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (Mantyluoto @ Feb 6 2004, 02:15 PM)
"scratches head"

"closes book"

" and throws it down the stairs"

so basically it allows the leader of the link to gain a bonus to their channeling stat which determines the level of weave they can cast. so if the leader was 9th lvl but couldn't cast 5th lvl weaves by linking and gaining +1 lvl bonus they would now be able to cast 5th weaves. Correct?

Correct. And she could also use 4th level weave slots to cast 5th level weaves, due to the +1 linking bonus. Understand?


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:18 PM
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so the linking bonus also reduces the weave slot too? anything else this country boy has missed. i only ask 'cos its gonna happen soon in my game.

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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 08:30 PM
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LOL Normally, using an Overchanneling/Angreal/Sa'Angreal/Well/Circle will allow you to use lower slots for higher weaves. Lemme do this as a game example.
Say you have a +2 angreal, and you're a level 7 initiate, granting you one 4th level weave per day, and you have a 15 in Intelligence. Following so far?
You want to Travel by yourself to Tear (normally a level 7 weave; assume you know the Create Gateway weave as well, and have the Spirit affinity, thus making it a 6th level weave).
Now, normally, you cannot cast this weave, for two reasons:
  • The max weave level you can cast due to your Intelligence is a 5th level weave.
  • You only have access to 4th level weaves at this time.
The second problem can be handled simply by overchanneling, with a DC of 25, to get +2 weave levels. But the first one you have no way to get around until you get more ability points (remember, 1 ability point gain every 4 levels).
But since you have that +2 angreal, your Intelligence is considered 2 points higher for the max weave level you can cast, or 17 in this case, allowing you to weave 7th level weaves (so long as you can overchannel or otherwise increase your weave slots to 7th level). Furthermore, you can use the angreal to increase all your weave slots by +2 levels. Thus, you can use your 4th level slot to cast a 6th level weave.

that's how it works.

This post has been edited by MagusRogue on Feb 6 2004, 08:31 PM


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 08:52 PM
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"scratches head"

"closes book"

" and throws it down the stairs"


"then goes back down and picks up the pages"

Thanks Magus (i think)

i'll copy this to my C drive and let my player have a look.




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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 09:44 PM
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lol be nice to your book. it's poorly written but it's still a good friend!


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Mantyluoto
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 10:16 PM
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just been surfing ebay and have bid for another WOT core book. Ive got a friend (yes another one) who will ring bind it for me so i can scan it easily,



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Posted: Feb 7 2004, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE (Blaeric Fen @ Feb 6 2004, 07:12 PM)
I understand it now, if you already use all the 3rd level weaves, you could overchannel to cast a 3rd level weave while using a 2nd level slot?

Also, if you have a prime channeling ability of 15 (for example) you could overchannel to use that 3rd level slot to cast a 5th level weave... even if you aren't high enough level to receive a 5th level slot.
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