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> Base book vs. 3.5 revisions, What do you think of WoT 3.5?
Targul
Posted: Feb 11 2004, 05:35 AM
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Ok so I was able to lay my hands on the zip file for the WoT 3.5 class conversions. One of my players in particular wants me to use them.

My question is does anyone use these altenate rules? And if so, what do you think of them? Are they more balaced? Are the characters more powerful?

Just from a preliminary look they look to me like they added a lot of abilities to some of the classes. Does a class really need an ability at each lvl.?


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Posted: Feb 11 2004, 06:24 AM
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I don't know anything about 3.5 revised classes for WoT, but I certainly use some revised skills/feats on a case by case basis as I feel they make more sense or are more playable, such as two weapon fighting sans ambidexterity.
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Posted: Feb 11 2004, 03:10 PM
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i don't use (LuciusT's???) revised classes, and aren't really fond of most of them. I instead made my own revisions. Totally rehauled the Woodsman class to take it away from another fighter clone and into something else, a specialist in terrains. Works pretty well.
As for his dai'dore, i use the Swashbuckler from Complete Warrior instead.


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Posted: Feb 11 2004, 03:20 PM
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The only people with enough ego to call their revisions "The 3.5 revision" were Quillion, Two Rivers Wolfbrother, and myself. smile.gif

To answer some of your questions, yes the classes are more powerful than before. Do I use them? Yes I do. Have they been unbalancing? No, but I don't pick and choose, I use them all. That may contribute to the balancing effect.

My personal favorites are the armsman (done by myself) that lets you have a better Class defense bonus at the sacrifice of Armor Compatibility. And the wanderer (I added a couple of things to LuciusT's version with his permission) which allows you to customize your character a bit more. And the noble by Two Rivers Wolfbrother, is pretty good. It lets you customize your noble a lot more.

Are there too many abilities? I don't think so. Most of the "really good" abilities are at higher level. So players have to decide if they want to take a PrC or not. If they decide not to, they don't automatically suck in comparison. Look at the standard classes. Why on earth would you continue as a Woodsman past level 6 when you could multiclass to a Warder or something?

If you have doubts, I suggest that you atleast give it a fair shot. I don't think that you will be disappointed. But then again, I am a little biased. smile.gif


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Reimer Bo
Posted: Feb 11 2004, 05:11 PM
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Yes I have looked at them.
I like the wanderer, noble and the armsman, but I don't like woodsman, algai'd'siswai and the dai’dore...
In my opinion the need for an agile unarmored weapon master (i.e. Dai'dore) is replaced by the revision of the armsman.
And both woodsman and algai'd'siswai outshines the armsman combat wise...


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I would like to see your revisions of the core classes. smile.gif

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Posted: Feb 11 2004, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (Reimer Bo @ Feb 11 2004, 06:11 AM)
Yes I have looked at them.
I like the wanderer, noble and the armsman, but I don't like woodsman, algai'd'siswai and the dai’dore...
In my opinion the need for an agile unarmored weapon master (i.e. Dai'dore) is replaced by the revision of the armsman.
And both woodsman and algai'd'siswai outshines the armsman combat wise...


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I would like to see your revisions of the core classes. smile.gif

really? *Grins* guess i'll get around to it when i got time, if more people wanna look at my horrible works. biggrin.gif


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Targul
Posted: Feb 12 2004, 12:55 AM
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Thx for the opinions guys. And Magus I would like to see your revisions as well if you get a chance. Still not sure about them. I think I might give them a shot after I start a new campaign though thx again.


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Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and concubines, etc.?
This is Hell we're big on irony here.
Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur.
I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself?
Correct, but I hardly see what...
So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom?
I have the entire legions of Hell at my command
Enjoy it while you can, Skippy.

-Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style)
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MagusRogue
Posted: Feb 12 2004, 01:13 AM
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okies, but gonna post my revisions in a new thread. gonna have quite a few stuff too. Also, my noble as of right now sticks, but i might switch to a different one if i find something better (namely, if the noble from Noble's Handbook rocks or not).


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