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Posted: Jul 8 2004, 07:55 PM
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What do you guys think will be the big change from the 3rd to the 4th age? There are supposed to be 7 ages I think so I don't think the ability ti channel should disapear yet but I'm just curious what other people have thought of as possibilities? It needs to be different some how from the AoL
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Posted: Jul 8 2004, 08:02 PM
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Really, I only thought there were 4 ages, myths, legends, and two others...


Well, for one thing I expect they will be more technologically advanced, and less dependent on ter'angreal. (After all they still haven't discovered how to do anything but copy ones already in existence)

And I think channelers will be a bit more feared than in the age of Legends.

I am interested in hearing others' speculation though
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Posted: Jul 8 2004, 09:50 PM
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Definitly 7 ages, hence the 7 spokes on the Wheel of Time.

In my opinion the 3rd Age has been an age of decline for humanity. Just as they begin to recover from the Breaking, and hope they will be able to reclaim that lost glory comes the Trolloc Wars, then when Hawkwing gets things going he dies and we have the War of the Hundred years. Ever since the population of people has been declining and nations have died because they failed. By the books there is more area between the Spine and the Aryth claimed by no one and pure wilderness than land claimed by any nation.

The 4th Age will be an Age of renewal for the human race. Channeling will still be around (I think, unless somehow some cataclysm removes the ability from people during Tarmon Gaidon) and new nations will arise along with new Empires. More technology (from Rand's schools of inventors and scholars, new discoveries of theoretical knowledge, etc. Even just going by the writtings we see from the 4th Age at the beginning of books and such, how they are all from "Courts" of various kinds makes it seem to me like it is suppossed to show an Age of growing civilization.


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Posted: Jul 9 2004, 12:42 AM
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Well, I think the biggest change would be that there are now two towers, white and black. I am quite intrigued how Aes Sedai will deal whit Asha'Man (if Rand is not around anymore).

The biggie maybe would be that both towers would work either together (discovering the old AoL lore, weaves or new weaves) or as two different towers. Also if Rand's plan to cleanse saidin succeeds, then there is no question what is the biggest change biggrin.gif.

But in politics, I think many nations are forced together into as single nation to figth in Tarmon Gaidon and so the cooperation could work after it. Also the big change would be come from Aiels, will they go bakc to the aiel wastes or do they stay where they are? Becoming as part of the new society in someway (more trading and politics between the nations, yes I know, it probaly never happen rolleyes.gif ).

Also now that seachan are comed to midlands is also big change, imagine how much wider the world is after Tarmon Gaidon (if it survives that is).


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Posted: Jul 9 2004, 02:59 AM
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Or perhaps the white and tower will perpetually war, trying to drag in portions of the world to support them, ending the age in a cataclysmic world war.

I doubt that, but it would be pretty cool.
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Posted: Jul 9 2004, 03:24 AM
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Tower vs Tower huh? Well, it is grim image, but knowing Aes Sedai as politicans and knowign that such war would bring such destruction, they would rather ally or deal peacefully whit black tower than force all those channeling men to give up their powers (along whit their lives). After all sacrafices what they made during Tarmon Gaidon.


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Posted: Jul 9 2004, 04:19 AM
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Hard to say if rand wins there might be peace if he loses the world is covered in darkness..


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Posted: Jul 9 2004, 05:47 PM
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ya, I know they would probably be at peace, but the thought of it is still cool... like the war of the power all over again, but being fought between two rival towers, since the dark one is locked up... too bad that both towers are sensible though...

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Posted: Jul 12 2004, 02:26 PM
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Likely we are looking at the end of the Dark Ages, the Renaissance. We'll see an explosion of new ideas and technologies, and coupled with that, a rash of wars between minor states that draw in the larger. We will see great nations rising in power, and old ones fading or fracturing. Those new technologies will be put to their first test in combat and as use of machines can slowly replace what the Power was needed for, we may see a decline in its use. On the other hand, with the cleansing of saidin we may see a renewal of joint work with the Power and a rediscovery of its uses. We are looking at The Age of Rebirth.


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Posted: Jul 12 2004, 11:14 PM
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Definitly won't be an Age of Peace, remember the line from either one of the prophecies or one of the writings from the 4th Age that appears in the beginning/end of the books.

"The Last Battle done, but the world not yet done with battle." We know Matt and Aludra are going to discover cannons here sometime soon, I think we will see those used at the Last Battle, or at least in one battle before the end of the series.


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