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Darius Earthbinder
Posted: May 29 2004, 02:30 PM
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we know of three materials from the AoL Cuendillar (heartstone), Fancloth and Elstone

but what other items are from the age of legends what are their properties

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Heartstone: (Cuendillar)
properties: Heavier than Water, impervious to heat & cold, non-newtonian (force directed against it makes it stronger)
Description: slightly warm to the touch with a fint vibrating feel hearstone item are much prized
Creation: under a weave of Air,Earth and spirit Iron is transformed into Cuendillar it is a slow process which can be increased by channeling more power into the item.

Whitestone: (Elstone)
Properties: hardwearing, Heavier than water, smooth non-permeable, High surface Albedo
Description: cool to the touch with a friction free feel (slimy or very smooth) reflective but not to any great degree. seems to glow with an inner light, appears brighter in moonlight
Creation: unknown

Warders Cloak cloth: (fancloth, fancloth)
Properties: hard wearing, high tensile strength, colour shifting (chameleonic?? spelling is not my stroingest suite) non-permeable to liquid
Description: smooth and fine to the touch like silk but of a heavier weight, it changes its colour to match its surroundings.
Creation: created by a Ter'Angreal currently in the White tower, otherwise unknown

Moodsilk: (Streith)
Properties: supple, empathic, colour shifting
Description: streith is a prized material for the creation of the finest dresses and clothing, it detects the mood of the wearer and alters its colour to suit.
Creation: unknown

<unknown>:(Zara boards)
Properties:
Description: created by followers of the great lord of the dark during the age of legends, probably used for playing many of the strategy games popular during the era, they are a key clue to the fact that the user/owner is a darkfrien or worse.
Creation: unknown, but the playing pieces are created from living human fleah, probably causing a great deal of pain

<unknown> : (glowbulbs)
Properties: same density as air (neutral bouyancy, will float but usually remain wherever placed), emit light, biodegradable.
Description: glowbulbs are round light emitting objects that seved as light sources in the age of legends, they emit a plesant neutral light to a radius of about 30ft, they are not to bright to look at and in point of fact appear no brighter than their surroundings, they bob plesantly in a light breeze and can be moved about easily. however as glowbulbs get older their light dims and begins to flicker
Creation: unknown



some other common items mentioned in the books: Razorlace, shining spotless steel, Stasis boxes, travelling boxes (may just be a lie), call units, heat exchanger.

Any others i may have missed or if i have made a mistake please post or if someone else has ideas about the other bits...

on a side note it is mentioned that the white tower has a list of all the items made of Cuendillar, but later the books mention the someone had pulled up some Cuendillar from the fingers of dragon, were therfore those items mentioned in the list of the white tower ??? or are they unlisted/lost

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Posted: May 30 2004, 12:06 AM
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Ceundillar is made from objects made of pure iron, not steel. As for the items the Tower claims to have a list, but more gets found occassionally, so somehow I don't think their list is complete. Probably an oversight on Jordan's part since he occassionally forgets or changes things that were said as fact early in the series.

Streith is a cloth that like Fancloth was used for fashion during the Age of Legends. Fancloth found another use of course during the War of the Power. Streith reflects the mood of the wearer and shifts colours, shades, and such to do so.
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Posted: May 30 2004, 12:08 AM
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Posted: May 30 2004, 04:16 AM
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I always figured glow bulbs to just be light bulbs and call boxes to be one power powered long range walkie-talkies, so to speak. wink.gif I love this list BTW, its going to be very helpful to me in the near future.

Are Zara boards the ones that involve real souls or something?


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Posted: May 31 2004, 01:05 AM
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Yea, we've seen glowbulbs mentioned before (semirhage complained about only having flickering glowbulbs when she was torturing the Sedai and Warder I believe and Sammeal had them in his place) and I think it is pretty obvious they are OP powered light bulbs. Apparently there is another OP powered light source (semirhage mentioned the name in same sequence) that is better.


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Posted: May 31 2004, 01:31 AM
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Streith -- think mood rings...in form of clothing. Simply chages color, pattern, opacity...etc with your mood

Zara boards...the best hint we get is when one of the Forsaken is musing over their latest find of a cache of AoL items in a stasis box -- including a zara board with pieces "made from real live human beings"
I take it that it has less to do with soul...more to do with body. but it's open to interpretation. In any case, there seemed nothing unusual about game pieces made from living humans to the Forsaken in their POV


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Posted: May 31 2004, 02:18 PM
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I don't remember reading anything about elstone, so I can't comment about that, however, Cuendillar is denser than diamond (even the softest solid is denser than water). The exact makeup of cuendillar is uncertain (other than that it is based on iron), since RJ said that cuendillar is NOT made of iron, rather is changed into another material entirely. Worked iron does contain certain elements that pure iron does not contain (carbon, nitrogen and several other elements that I don't remember), but I believe that cuendillar is formed from the sub-atomic level, changing the atoms into a new synthetic atom, which holds better. It is possible that all of the atoms are fused into a single atomic structure, which then can only be destroyed by weakening the sub-atomic bonds that hold the particles together...but that is speculation. The reason that this makes sense to me is that atomic and subatomic physics are non-newtonian.


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Posted: May 31 2004, 04:23 PM
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as far as density goes i am not using it in its correct term more as a guide to whether items will float/sink on water

elstone has been reffered to a few times, at rhuidean and Paren Disen, it seems to hold the same place as italian marble in being used to front/face important places and entranceways. i also think that the Bridge @whitebridge may be made from it.

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Heavier would be more accurate in this instance (though density would be accurate, since low density would be more likely to displace enough water to cause it to float). The problem with using density is that iron can be made to float, by placing a lip around it that prevents the water from coming over the lip (note that for any object to achieve bouyancy, it has to displace an amount of fluid equal in mass to its own mass, so for a 1000 kg piece of iron to float, it needs to displace a minimum of 1000 kg of water (or other fluid). Submarines work by changing the amount of fluid that they displace internally.

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Posted: May 31 2004, 04:52 PM
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okay, thoughts of stasis boxes. They are probably just a box with a ter'angreal which weaves a keeping or preservation on the objects within it, somehow tying off or holding the weave until activated to do otherwise.

This is of course going off the assumption that all "machines" in the WoT use ter'angreal like engines which allow them to do their job. Which would infer that not only would a stasis box have had to survive the breaking of the world, but it would have had to survive with its "engine" ter'angreal intact, because I assume that sooner or later, some might need servicing.


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Posted: May 31 2004, 10:54 PM
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what if the box and the ter'angreal engine are the same?
what would the box be made of? wood? Heartstone? silver or other precious metal
what size would they be? would they all be the same size (some small enough for a single item some large enough to fit in a man)

on a side note how small a space would you need to fit in a gholam??
(a full human body properly folded can exist and still be alive in a 2ft cube, dead with some squishing you can fit it in a 15"cube(the main blicking factor is the skull+pelvis), as ash in a 5" cube).

would there be a comparable weave (prehaps similar to the one used to preserve food?), would making a stasis box be the same as any other ter'angreal? would for that matter making a Zara board (apart from the living pieces)

on a side note i just got to see the day after tomorrow..... Endless winter..... lost city in the mountains of mist.......
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Posted: May 31 2004, 11:47 PM
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I have been toying with this ter'angreal engine/machine idea in my head for a while now. My suspicion is that the encasement of the stasis box would be just that, a box, could be made of many different materials in many different designs all suited to taste. The element of it that made it a stasis box would probably be fairly small, perhaps laid between one of the walls of the box, with some sort of mechanism to trigger it. There probably could be an infinite number of triggers as well, some as simple as a button, some as complex as a safe with codes, etc. And I would expect that the most complicated stasis boxes would require a person to channel to set them, although not all of them would.

Given that during the Age of Legends channelers were still in the extreme minority, I would expect that the majority of the box was made by your average worker, whereas the ter'angreal part would be made by a channeler who was experienced in such work.
So yes, I guess I think that making the one power component of the stasis box would be like making any ter'angreal, if you can say that making any two ter'angreal are *similar*. wink.gif


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