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> The Damane PrC, Or my attempt at one.
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Posted: Feb 5 2004, 06:42 PM
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here's my damane prestige class. Tell me what you think and suggestions, before i submitt it to Eosin.

Damane: To channel in Seanchan is almost a death sentence. For males, it is indeed a death sentence, but for the female channelers, known as marath’damane, to channel is to be slaved and molded into a weapon. Controlled by the a’dam, and connected to a sul’dam, the damane is no longer a person but a tool, taught through a fast method of forcing power through the a’dam to destroy without a second thought. Damane powers are exclusively focused on combat; they master the art of getting the most out of their weaves, and how much they can kill with a single blast.
Damane are given almost no freedom at all. Treated like a favored pet, the more successful damane can expect to have slightly finer living quarters, but they are slaved just like the rest. Punishment for disobedience is quick and effective, usually dealt with painful insinuations through the use of their a’dam. Most damane come to enjoy their condition, brainwashed into believing that they truly are dangerous unless collared and leashed.
After Dumai Wells and with the increased presence of Seanchan in the main continent, some damane are becoming free, although almost never under their own will. Those who do finally accept freedom have problems with integrating back into normal society. Many still harbor fear towards anyone with power, acting as scared puppies, believing a sul’dam is just around the corner ready to leash them again. Others become viscous and loathing of any Seanchan, seeking to destroy as many as possible. Any slaver likewise receives this vigilante punishment. After a while, the freed damane may once again become a normal person, and may even join a new tradition. But the scars of the a’dam will forever haunt her, until her death.
This prestige class is to represent a damane that has reached enough power and discipline to be used in actual combat. Until then, a damane is simply an Initiate, learning the art of destruction. This should primarily be an NPC prestige class, although freeing a damane has potential for story material. Likewise, a PC may be leashed and taught the ways of a damane until freed. A freed damane may continue to gain levels in Damane, learning more of how to kill with the One Power, or may move to become accepted within another Tradition. Regardless of the character’s background, all damane are female.
Hit Die: d6

Table X-X: The Damane
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Level Base
Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Special Defense Bonus Reputation Gain
1 +0 +2 +0 +0 Iron Will, Damane Presence +0 +1
2 +1 +3 +0 +0 Battle Weaving +1 +0 +1
3 +1 +3 +1 +1 Damane Combat Casting +1 +0
4 +2 +4 +1 +1 Offensive Control +1 +1
5 +2 +4 +1 +1 Battle Weaving +2  +1 +1
6 +3 +5 +2 +2 Sudden Metaweave +2 +0
7 +3 +5 +2 +2 Improved Offensive Control +2 +1
8 +4 +6 +2 +2 Extra Affinity +2 +1
9 +4 +6 +3 +3 Improved Combat Casting +3 +0
10 +5 +7 +3 +3 Battle Weaving +3 +3 +1

Requirements:
To qualify to become a Damane, a character must fulfill all the following criteria.
Gender: Female.
Skills: Composure 4 ranks, Concentration 8 ranks, Weavesight 4 ranks.
Feats: Multiweave, Tie-off Weave
Channeling: Two or more Affinities, Two or more Talents.
Special: The damane must also know at least one of the following metaweaves: Empower Weave, Enlarge Weave, Maximize Weave, or Widen Weave.

Class Skills: The Damane’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Composure (Wis), Concentration (Con), Diplomacy (Cha), Heal (Wis), Innuendo (Cha), Intimidate (Cha), Invert (Int), Knowledge (any) (Int), Sense Motive (Wis), Spot (Wis), and Weavesight (Int).

Skill Points at Each Level: 2 + Int modifier.

Class Features:

Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Damane gain no proficiency with any weapon or armor.
Owned: Unlike the other four traditions, Damane are not free agents, nor are they even truly humans in the eyes of the Seanchan. Despite this, damane are treated very well if they behave, and can expect to receive food, shelter, and comfort from their sul’dam (or a form thereof, anyhow). This support is not unconditional, however, and may be retracted at will if the damane displeases her sul’dam. Such discipline is handed out for various reasons: the damane repeatedly failed to do as asked, or she acted on her own, or otherwise acted in any way other than subservience.
A freed damane must make a Will save (DC 30) or try and become chained once again. If the damane is incapable of reaching an a’dam or Seanchan, she often goes catatonic, wailing for the mercy of becoming leashed so she won’t hurt anyone. The damane gains a +1 bonus on this Will save every day she remains without an a’dam. Upon succeeding, the damane is finally free of the a’dam, no longer wishing to be leashed, and can go about life again. However, adjustment to normal life is gradual at best, and the GM may inflict Charisma penalties on social interactions for a period of time.
Iron Will: Damane gain Iron Will as a bonus feat.
Damane Presence: Even shackled and treated as dogs, the aura of power and sheer danger surrounds the Damane, and if a Damane is forced to intimidate she is a frightening experience indeed. A Damane receives a +4 competence bonus on Intimidation checks.
Battle Weaving: The damane are trained from chaining to be little more than weapons, moreso than even the Asha’man. Beginning at 2nd level, the damage increases the effectiveness of her combat weaves. Any weave cast by the damane that causes damage gains a +1 bonus hit point per die of damage. At 5th level, this bonus increases to +2, and at 9th level, this bonus increases to +3.
Damane Combat Casting: At 3rd level, a Damane gains a variant of the Combat Casting feat. She receives a +5 bonus on Concentration checks made while casting or maintaining a weave.
Offensive Control: On reaching 4th level, the Damane is capable of extending her capacity to cast weaves. When attempting to overchannel within one of her Affinities, she receives a +5 competence bonus on his Concentration check. This ability can be used only on offensive weaves.
Sudden Metaweave: Beginning at 6th level, the Damane has learned how to quickly strengthen her weaves. At a number of times per day equal to 3 + her Charisma modifier, she may cast a weave augmented by a metaweave feat at the weave’s normal casting time, as opposed to a full-round action.
Improved Combat Casting: At 7th level, the Damane’s mental control becomes even stronger. When attempting to overchannel within on of her affinities, she receives a +10 competence bonus on her Concentration check. This ability can only be used on weaves which target foes directly or include them in their areas of affect.1
Extra Affinity: At 8th level, the Damane gains Extra Affinity as a bonus feat.
Improved Combat Casting: As Damane Combat Casting, except the Damane gains a +6 bonus on Concentration checks to cast a weave while on the offensive.

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Posted: Feb 5 2004, 06:43 PM
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so much for copying from a table in a .doc..... biggrin.gif anyhow, comments?


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Posted: Feb 5 2004, 11:07 PM
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I like the class and I like abilities they seem to be appropriate to me and follow a sort of pattern that a damane would be pushed to by her sever training regimen.



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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 02:49 AM
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hmm...could you put up a write-up of the meta-weaves? Sincew they're pre-reqs and they get a boost...I'd like to see them...


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 03:02 AM
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MagusRouge, I'm not sure if I would give them the Intimidate Bonus. I think that folks are more intimidated by Sul'dam. Maybe that is just my opinion.

Other than that, I don't see any problems.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (Sa_sara @ Feb 5 2004, 09:49 PM)
hmm...could you put up a write-up of the meta-weaves? Sincew they're pre-reqs and they get a boost...I'd like to see them...

Already submitted them to Eosin. For now, if you have DnD, they're just the metamagic feats, renamed to weaves. Same slot cost, cast as a sorcerer (full-round action, or an additional full-round action for weaves with round-long or worse casting times). The SRD has the metamagics as well.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE (Sharn Penndroen @ Feb 5 2004, 10:02 PM)
MagusRouge, I'm not sure if I would give them the Intimidate Bonus.  I think that folks are more intimidated by Sul'dam.  Maybe that is just my opinion.

Other than that, I don't see any problems.

actually, givign Damane an intimidate bonus works. Damane are actually insanely frightening when they want to be. Remember Alivia? biggrin.gif Anyhow, most people know to fear a damane not from their own force of personality, but just what they are. This is especially true for Seanchan, but by this time it'll extend to any Randlander. Even if the damane isn't wanting to be scary, just their raw power and what the hell they are is enough to give men knees that drop out.
Don't worry, i'll be working on a 5-level Sul'dam class to complement, and they'll get a Suldam Presence of their own.

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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 04:47 AM
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Okay, that works.

When you are working on the Sul'dam, remember that someone makes the A'dam.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 05:37 AM
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yes, other damane do. and they are treated very well indeed.
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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 03:26 PM
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So you are either going to have to include Drothgery's ter'angreal creation weaves, or you are going to have to include a specific ability to create A'dam. What had you planned to do?


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 03:50 PM
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Actually, I'm a sell-out for old DnD. I made a series of item creation feats, linked them to the Lost Ability feat Latent Maker. So far the feats i got are Create A'dam, Create Angreal, Create Ter'Angreal, Create Wells, Copy Ter'angreal. I was thinking one of the sul'dam abilities is granting Create A'dam to their damane, as i don't see like 50 makers running around. What's your opinion, Sharn?


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:32 PM
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I could really use the damane class in the adventure that I'm writing. I didn't even think about it, even when Manty gave me the idea to have a PC captured & turned Damane.


EDIT: Does anyone have any ideas for the Sul'Dam class?

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QUOTE (Sharn Penndroen @ Feb 6 2004, 03:02 AM)
MagusRouge, I'm not sure if I would give them the Intimidate Bonus. I think that folks are more intimidated by Sul'dam. Maybe that is just my opinion.

Other than that, I don't see any problems.

Sharn, I think that they would get an intimidate bonus, but only towards other Seanchan. Like the Seanchan Seekers get an intimidate bonus against Seanchan. Just MHO though.


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QUOTE (Blaeric Fen @ Feb 6 2004, 01:32 PM)
I could really use the damane class in the adventure that I'm writing. I didn't even think about it, even when Manty gave me the idea to have a PC captured & turned Damane.


EDIT: Does anyone have any ideas for the Sul'Dam class?

working on the suldam. I know they'll get intimidate bonuses... i'm kinda stumped actually on what to do bout sul'dam. any ideas, guys?


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QUOTE (Blaeric Fen @ Feb 6 2004, 01:33 PM)
QUOTE (Sharn Penndroen @ Feb 6 2004, 03:02 AM)
MagusRouge, I'm not sure if I would give them the Intimidate Bonus.  I think that folks are more intimidated by Sul'dam.  Maybe that is just my opinion.

Other than that, I don't see any problems.

Sharn, I think that they would get an intimidate bonus, but only towards other Seanchan. Like the Seanchan Seekers get an intimidate bonus against Seanchan. Just MHO though.

as i said to Sharn, if you know a damane, or can sense the One Power, then you should rightfully be scared of one... especially females, as a damane is a reminder of what you COULD become.


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well, wouldn't the suldam be a initiate base class? because they can channel, but they aren't born with the ability. & I think that the intimidate bonus would only work for Seanchan or people who have run into suldam & damane before. It would basically be like the PrC channeler classes presence bonus, +4 competence bonus on intimaidate checks. They would use damane's weaves per day table, bvut they could only channel when they're linked with the a'dam. Or you could just have her use the damane's weaves per day & known weaves & all that jazz. Other than that, I don't know right now.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (Blaeric Fen @ Feb 6 2004, 01:49 PM)
well, wouldn't the suldam be a initiate base class? because they can channel, but they aren't born with the ability. & I think that the intimidate bonus would only work for Seanchan or people who have run into suldam & damane before. It would basically be like the PrC channeler classes presence bonus, +4 competence bonus on intimaidate checks. They would use damane's weaves per day table, bvut they could only channel when they're linked with the a'dam. Or you could just have her use the damane's weaves per day & known weaves & all that jazz. Other than that, I don't know right now.

uh uh. No sul'dam will ever willingly channel. I believe they are most commonly Experts or Nobles. And one of their class features should be the ability to use Weavesight. It's something that comes with years of handling the a'dam. They have very minor talent that isn't seen until they've worked with damane for a few years, and practically infuse themselves with saidar.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:52 PM
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But magus, the Suldam are born with the ability to learn to channel, the damane are born with the spark to channel. Even though the suldam don't know that they can channel, wouldn't they still be channelers?


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i thought the A'dam allowed Sul'dam to use the Damane's ability with the one Power, but not by allowing them to channel themselves, so they wouldn't need weaave sight with the Damane telling them if someone's channeling nearby.

i think that a Sul'dam should have things like intimidate (Damane), pain (reverse of heal) etc etc.


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QUOTE (Blaeric Fen @ Feb 6 2004, 01:52 PM)
But magus, the Suldam are born with the ability to learn to channel, the damane are born with the spark to channel. Even though the suldam don't know that they can channel, wouldn't they still be channelers?

Nope. Morgase had the ability to learn to channel, but she can't channel a spark. Does she have levels in Initiate? Same with a Sul'dam. Taking a level in Initiate or Wilder means you've learned to actually channel, not that you have the ability to LEARN. A channeler class means you have experience weaving the one power on your own. Now, this isn't saying a Sul'dam couldn't pick up channeling later, but for now... nope. they'd start off as experts or nobles.
Remember, if you have levels in a channeler class, it'll be noticed. And that sul'dam'll immediately be named marath'damane. Sul'dam don't channel on their own; they use their damane to channel.


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