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Blaeric Fen |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 12:21
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Wells can be used in stedding, right? & if a
channeler wants to overchannel can they do that with a well? does anyone
have more info on them? -------------------- If you've got nothing to live for, what's the point
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Targul |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 12:45
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I would say that they could be used in steddings.
However, I don't think you could overchannel. I think of overchanneling as
drawing more of the source than you should and forcing out a stronger
weave. The Wells only have a certain amount of power stored in them. Think
of it like a bucket, you can't draw more than you have. Maybe I might allow my players to overchannel but it would cost more levels that they would have to sacrifice from the Well storage capacity. If that makes any sense. -------------------- Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here
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concubines, etc.? This is Hell we're big on irony here. Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur. I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself? Correct, but I hardly see what... So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom? I have the entire legions of Hell at my command Enjoy it while you can, Skippy. -Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style) |
Dortamur |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 01:52
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But if you have a bigger straw, you can suck more out
of a bucket. ie; at a faster rate. So I think sure, you can overchannel using a well. You just use up the stored power faster. |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 02:07
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here's my write-up on wells, if you're interested
(note, i gave them much lower capacities than most people will, as i don't
think they should much levels at all): Wells Wells are special items that are a form of a temporary angreal. They hold extra saidar/saidin in them, that a channeler may access without having to overchannel. They come in all sizes and shapes, ranging from small jewelry (such as Cadsuane’s hair ornaments) to massive stones of power. To use a well, one simply opens to the One Power and pulls charges out of the well, using them as they wish. A well comes with a set number of charges, from 1-10 max charge. Each charge may grant the user a weave level to use as they wish. You may pull as many charges out of a well per round as you have levels in your highest weave slot (for example, a level 10 initiate may only pull 5 charges out per round). These charges may be used to fuel weaves, as well as metaweave feats, as normal. To recharge a well, you must spend one round per charge concentrating on the well, and be open to the One Power at all times. Unlike angreal, wells do not have a gender requirement. This post has been edited by MagusRogue on Feb 5 2004, 02:08 AM -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 05:42
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Magus, very good i wouldn't make them any more
powerful than that. what i probably would do though is make them all
containers, ie thimbles, jars buckets etc. as they are used the
hypothetical contents of the container is lowered also. i would also give them power ratio's much like Angreal and Sa'Angreal, dependant on size of Well (or failing that Dm's taste) -------------------- For Those About To Rock, We Salute You |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 06:39
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the power ratio is how much you wanna pull on them.
In essence, a Well is a temporary angreal. As for containers, Cadsuane's
birds and moons aren't containers, just jewelry.
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Aleshandre |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 06:40
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I agree on the level of the wells. The only thing
that I would dissagree with is whether a channeler can overchannel with a
well. for example, if a level 10 initiate had a well that held enough
Saidar to channel say, 10 5th level weaves (before recharging), and a
level 1 initiate took possession of it (for whatever reason), the level 1
initiate would be able to channel the equivelant of 10 5th level weaves as
well. In this case, it would be perfectly feasible to overchannel with a
well. Remember that you can draw from a bucket 1 drop at a time or all at
once and anywhere in between. This would not change the fact that the
character is overchanneling or any of the associated penalties, it would
simply deplete the well faster. The only change to the writup I would make
is to have overchanneling from a well deplete the well twice as fast; ie:
The well has 10 weaves worth of Saidar and a single overchanneled weave
depletes it by 2 (to 8) instead of by 1 as with a normal weave. As a side note, I think that wells would work better with a slot-pool channeling system best. -------------------- |
KSBsnowowl |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 06:40
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And Nyn's was a belt, IIRC.
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MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 07:25
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hrm..... depleating faster? i see the rationality here though... I was thinking implimenting a max levels pulled from a well... like.... 1/2 your levels, round up, can be in pulled saidin/saidar? This post has been edited by MagusRogue on Feb 5 2004, 07:26 PM -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
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Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 10:53
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best i take my own advice and reread the books ![]() -------------------- For Those About To Rock, We Salute You | ||
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 11:22
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*shall be the hundred sixth thousand fifty-ninth person to suggest you reread the books* I'm a bastard, i know. ![]() -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. | ||||
Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 11:24
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probably ![]() but then i never listen to myself anyway ![]() -------------------- For Those About To Rock, We Salute You | ||
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 11:30
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Then listen to me. ![]() -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 11:32
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read the email i just sent you. then laugh i did writing it. thats what you get for being tired. but then ive just finished my thursday night gaming session (yay) -------------------- For Those About To Rock, We Salute You |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 5 2004, 11:48
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LOL you need to get some caffeine. Was talking bout
JRR Tolkien. I'm an oklahoma hick. *G*
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Blaeric Fen |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:39
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ANYWAYS, you guys, back to the wells. What I meant by
overchanneling is, if there IS enough saidin/saidar stored in the well to
succesfully overchannel, would it be allowed? Or would it make sense to
make a rule that says that you would overchannel 2x the normal amount
that's overchanneled? -------------------- If you've got nothing to live for, what's the point
of living? Dont be afraid of death, be afraid of an unlived life ; you dont have to live forever, you just have to live... |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:45
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Since a well is nothing more than a temporary
Angreal, i'd allow overchanneling as normal. Remember, if a character
picks up a +6 sa'angreal, he can still overchannel as well. If you got a
Power Rating 6 Well, then you can overchannel with how much you want to
pull out. Personally, i'd make the power ratings on well's as low-end as angreals. 1-3 would be the norm on wells, with 4+ being as rare as (comparitively) sa'angreal. Wells should be actually fairly more common than angreal as well, due to their temporary natures. -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
Blaeric Fen |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:51
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temporary natures? I don't understand that part, you
mean they are only full of the power ffor a certain time, until it's all
used. -------------------- If you've got nothing to live for, what's the point
of living? Dont be afraid of death, be afraid of an unlived life ; you dont have to live forever, you just have to live... |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:53
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Exactly. Think of a Well as... well, a Well. ![]() -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. | ||
Blaeric Fen |
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:55
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How do they refill with the power though?
automatically, or do they have to be channeled full? like drawing the
source in and then releasing it into the well.
-------------------- If you've got nothing to live for, what's the point
of living? Dont be afraid of death, be afraid of an unlived life ; you dont have to live forever, you just have to live... |
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