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MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 18 2004, 10:32
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Chapter four, the first thing they talk about is
adding Class Defense Bonuses. It says that your class defense bonus will
not stack with Armor bonuses, but any other bonus (includign shield) DOES
stack. boo-ya! the only problem i have here is that it says that a rogue has worse defense bonuses than a fighter... *furrows brows* i don't know about that. This post has been edited by MagusRogue on Feb 18 2004, 10:34 PM -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
Targul |
Posted: Feb 18 2004, 10:40
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![]() Aran'shadar ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 148 Member No.: 69 Joined: 29-January 04 ![]() |
Right but does the Fighter get Armor Compatibility by
those rules? In combat a fighter should be better at defending themselves
that a rogue. Just makes sense to me. If I remember correctly that same rule says you should make all armor into DR effectively. To lazy to go grab my copy and check to be sure right now. Pushed myself a kinda hard with PT today. Hasta -------------------- Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here
ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and
concubines, etc.? This is Hell we're big on irony here. Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur. I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself? Correct, but I hardly see what... So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom? I have the entire legions of Hell at my command Enjoy it while you can, Skippy. -Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style) |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 18 2004, 10:50
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basically, they say use the higher one. There's a
later Armor variant that allows you to make armor into DR. Divide your
armor bonus by half (round down), and that's it's DR. Subtract DR from the
armor bonus and you get the new armor bonus to AC. it's also suggested if
you're using both Class Defense Bonuses and Armor as DR that armor bonuses
always overule class defense. so you can choose DR but worse defense
bonus, or an awesome defense bonus. Problem with using the new class defense bonuses is that Algai'd'siswai would loose 4 points off their Defense Bonus, while Armsmen would gain 4 points to their defense bonus. But then again, WoT has it's own class defense bonus. I'm just taking a page from this and allowing shield bonuses (which are seperate from armor) to stack with class defense. -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 18 2004, 10:53
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This brings another question. Anyone thought of using
the Magic (Power?) Rating, presented in chapter 5? this rule means you get
a scaling rating rating with your classes that acts as your casting level,
and even non-spellcasting classes add to this (though pitifully). I
haven't fully explored this option yet, but....
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done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
Targul |
Posted: Feb 18 2004, 11:03
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![]() Aran'shadar ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 148 Member No.: 69 Joined: 29-January 04 ![]() |
Kinda makes sense though doesn't it. Just because you
are concentrating on other forms of training. Learning new things, doesn't
mean that you should stop growing with the Power. You just learn and grow
stronger at a slower pace since you aren't devoting yourself to it and
concentrating on those abilities as you would if you took a channeling
class. -------------------- Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here
ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and
concubines, etc.? This is Hell we're big on irony here. Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur. I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself? Correct, but I hardly see what... So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom? I have the entire legions of Hell at my command Enjoy it while you can, Skippy. -Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style) |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 18 2004, 11:20
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yeah, i kinda like it. The Magic rating is a flat 1:1
(rating:level) for full-fledged casters, while partial casters like bards
and paladins get a 1:2 going on, and noncasters get a 1:4 ratio going.
-------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
Targul |
Posted: Feb 18 2004, 11:36
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![]() Aran'shadar ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 148 Member No.: 69 Joined: 29-January 04 ![]() |
See Magus gets it! Why can't my GM?
![]() -------------------- Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here
ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and
concubines, etc.? This is Hell we're big on irony here. Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur. I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself? Correct, but I hardly see what... So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom? I have the entire legions of Hell at my command Enjoy it while you can, Skippy. -Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style) |
Kakita Aramoro |
Posted: Feb 19 2004, 12:09
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hmn, shouldn't bards get something better than
paladins? like 3:4? |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 19 2004, 03:22
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actually, you're partly right. A bard is a full
caster, and thus gets a 1:1. my bad! monks also got a 1:2 going on. prolly cuz fo the self-enlightenment stuff This post has been edited by MagusRogue on Feb 19 2004, 03:25 AM -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
Targul |
Posted: Feb 19 2004, 05:19
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![]() Aran'shadar ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 148 Member No.: 69 Joined: 29-January 04 ![]() |
Hey Enlightenment and esoteric knowledge should be
useful for something right? -------------------- Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here
ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and
concubines, etc.? This is Hell we're big on irony here. Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur. I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself? Correct, but I hardly see what... So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom? I have the entire legions of Hell at my command Enjoy it while you can, Skippy. -Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style) |
Kakita Aramoro |
Posted: Feb 19 2004, 05:35
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Elder Scholar ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 129 Member No.: 74 Joined: 1-February 04 ![]() |
does that mean that a cleric multyclassing into monk
would work better now? sweet ![]() |
Targul |
Posted: Feb 19 2004, 06:34
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![]() Aran'shadar ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 148 Member No.: 69 Joined: 29-January 04 ![]() |
Yes and No. If your GM includes the variant your
cleric half would continue to gain effective caster lvls. So would upgrade
fireball damage, durations, areas,etc but you don't gain any more spells
per day -------------------- Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here
ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and
concubines, etc.? This is Hell we're big on irony here. Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur. I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself? Correct, but I hardly see what... So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom? I have the entire legions of Hell at my command Enjoy it while you can, Skippy. -Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style) |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 19 2004, 01:43
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that's better than it was, though. *G* -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. | ||
Targul |
Posted: Feb 19 2004, 11:08
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![]() Aran'shadar ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 148 Member No.: 69 Joined: 29-January 04 ![]() |
True. Oh so VERY true. Been trying to get this type
of thing implemented in a game I play for the longest time. Now I have a
little more backing. It's definitely going into my Wheel game. -------------------- Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here
ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and
concubines, etc.? This is Hell we're big on irony here. Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur. I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself? Correct, but I hardly see what... So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom? I have the entire legions of Hell at my command Enjoy it while you can, Skippy. -Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style) |
Kakita Aramoro |
Posted: Feb 20 2004, 05:03
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wait, do they differentiate between arcane and divine
magic? if they dont then the mystic theaurge(Sp?) suddenly gets a nice
boost that brings it up to something I might actually play, instead of
scoff at ![]() |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 20 2004, 05:58
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![]() Village fool. Paid well. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 703 Member No.: 26 Joined: 16-January 04 ![]() |
they don't, which means arcane and divine levels
stack for purposes of casting level. although there's an addenum to it
saying if you don't feel that arcane and divine magic ratings hsould
stack, don't let them. -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 20 2004, 06:54
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Psst ive ordered it from Amazon.com. YAY for me now
only 3 weeks to wait "sigh" ![]() Manty (the impaitant roleplayer) -------------------- For Those About To Rock, We Salute You |
Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 25 2004, 06:34
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ive got it yay!!!!!!! havent had time to read it yet
but its here ![]() -------------------- For Those About To Rock, We Salute You |
MagusRogue |
Posted: Feb 25 2004, 06:41
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i know you've heard this very VERY often, but........
READ THE BOOKS!!!! mwa ha ha ha ha ha!!!! ![]() -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
done. Magus the Extreme. Your wonderfully-ghoulish partner GM of Patterns of the Weave. Be fearful, indeed. |
Mantyluoto |
Posted: Feb 25 2004, 06:45
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i would say bollocks but i'd get told off for being
rude ![]() Magus any chance you can help an old guy out. i cant find the rules for Angreal/Linking as we discussed. i remember that you did it in words of 1 sylable so i could understand it. you remenber where? -------------------- For Those About To Rock, We Salute You |
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