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Axel
Posted: Nov 3 2004, 01:24 AM
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The Wheel of Time turns and ages come and go, leaving memory that becomes legend, legend becomes myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave birth to it comes again.
Forgotten, that is, by all but the Watchers.

The Watchers are the supreme hidden guardians of the Light. Formed during the First Turning the Watchers dedicate themselves to ensuring that the Dark One is never freed. They work cautiously, remaining unnoticed, making only those minor alterations needed to ensure the smooth victory of the Light. Just nudging events to take the course they need, never letting their influence be seen. They have Ages of experience. They are sworn, however, to risk all their secrecy should the Dark One come too close to victory.
To protect themselves from the turmoil that comes of every transition of an Age the Watchers established their base in a mirror world, one devoid of life. The possibility of this world's existance is surprisingly high....

The Watchers recruit only those they are sure will have no intended impact on the Pattern and who are young enough not to be affected by the world they are born in. This is incredibly difficult, so the Watchers recruit only wilders who kill themselves trying to master their power. The Watcher save these people, in exchange for the rest of their lives spent defending the Light. The Watchers have members of every race and creed, even those long since dust. Even those thought unable to channel.

The Watchers have the only library that has history spanning not only the Ages, but the Turnings. A Turning of the Wheel is, indeed, something only someone a Watcher can truly comprehend. The Watchers have viewed the many changes between the same Ages of different Turnings. The Watchers have used this knowledge to great effect in preventing the victory of the Dark.


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Posted: Nov 3 2004, 04:11 AM
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I really think this is a cool idea. What would it be applied to? Some sort of grand encounter? An adventure hook?


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Posted: Nov 3 2004, 05:39 AM
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I see..... their wilders wearing black-n-green and bearing special ring and lantern Angreal.......... cool.gif Ten points if you guess what i'm talking about.


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Posted: Nov 3 2004, 06:10 AM
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ROFLMAO...
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Posted: Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM
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cool.gif i try


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Posted: Nov 4 2004, 05:22 AM
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Very nice Magus smile.gif Go Green Lantern Corp!

I like the idea for the most part, except for the "Races not usually thought to be able to Channel" part. Only humans can wield the One Power, other sentient races like Ogier can not. I'd really hate to see channeling Ogier or 'Finn or something running around it just sits wrong with me personally. Channeling is tied to Genetics and seems like a pretty cut and dried rule in Jordan's universe given the information we know. Everything but that I think is an interesting concept anyway.


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Posted: Nov 4 2004, 10:04 AM
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There could potentially be a quite tight Prestige Class related to these guys. I know you're um, anti-3.0 and beyond, though. Hmm.


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Posted: Nov 4 2004, 04:15 PM
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I can see a requirement that the character be a channeler or of a race with a naturally long lifespan. It makes sense that the watchers outlive normal humans, so that they can witness events of more than 3 generations. That would give them the perspective to understand the turnings of the wheel better (like Ogier and Nym naturally seem to - and Aes Sedai to a lesser extent).


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Posted: Nov 5 2004, 12:06 AM
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Yea I would agree to that Aleshandre, although any Nym would have to have come from the Age of Legends obviously (or a prior turning when they were made), or have been created by Channelers in this mirror world.

But definitly I could see the req for long lived races/people.


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Posted: Nov 5 2004, 12:35 AM
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unless they do like the Latern Corp does and just recruits new people when older ones die.


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Posted: Nov 5 2004, 01:22 AM
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Actually because of their need to be inconspicuous they'd dress like anybody else you'd meet, wherever you are. Aside from their recruitment you also have to remember that they'd be reproducing on their own....

(as for the idea, can anyone say Second Foundation?)


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Posted: Nov 5 2004, 02:42 AM
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"Second Foundation." Yep, I can say it.

Yeah, I was wondering where everyone got this outfit stuff from. I think it's a really cool idea. I think it'd be ideal for the Encounters Handbook, especially if I could write a Prestige Class to go with it.


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Posted: Nov 5 2004, 02:43 AM
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Heh definity (for the recruitment)

No idea what the Second Foundation is

as long as there are no channeling non-humans I'm cool smile.gif


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Posted: Nov 5 2004, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE (Axel @ Nov 4 2004, 06:22 PM)
Actually because of their need to be inconspicuous they'd dress like anybody else you'd meet, wherever you are.

LOL aparently you didn't get the reference. I was talking about the Watchers of the Green Lantern Corps. Comics, you know? *laughs* no points for you.


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Posted: Nov 5 2004, 08:13 AM
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I got you, Magus. You jokes are always good for Sharn dollars. They are worth atleast twice as much as Manty Dollars.


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Posted: Nov 5 2004, 03:26 PM
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See, SOMEONE here appreciates me! biggrin.gif


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Posted: Nov 6 2004, 01:44 AM
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The Second Foundation, from Isaac Asimov's Foundation books. The Second Foundation was a group of telepathic psychohistorians dedicated to secretly ensure that the First Foundation completed its task of forming a Second Galactic Empire, as Hari Seldon had predicted it would.
I only read Batman and Spiderman comics. Infact I don't really read those, I just get the big collections of 100+ comics and read them.

Anyway I figure these guys would always choose a nice, out of the way, place to moniter things. Consider the one assigned to Artur Hawkwing. Obviously somebody had to watch him, after all he's bloody important, but just as obviously they can't interfere unless absolutely necessary, or they'd risk disrupting the Pattern. He assumed the guise of a steward, not to Hawkwing himself, but to an aide of Hawkwings. Wherever Hawkwing went his aide went, and wherever he went his steward was sure to follow. The Watcher carefully deflected arrows and blades, added just a touch of incentive to those who bargained, and ensured that nothing would take Hawkwing before his time.


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Posted: Nov 6 2004, 04:15 AM
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I really like that idea Axel, it would add a nice twist to a standard WoT game yet stay within the realms of plausibility.


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Posted: Nov 16 2004, 01:04 AM
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Thank you, thank you! *bows* So wonderful having a creation people like. biggrin.gif
Lets see if it holds up....

Anomalies:
Another concept only the Watchers are aware of. Every once and a while, often only once or twice an Age, someone will be born that the Watchers can only refer to as "completely f*cked up." The common belief is that these are errors in the weaving of souls. Common anomalies include channelers of the wrong gender or race, minor ta'veren who die or fail too early, and people intended for one destiny who follow another. The Watchers must be prepared to deal with anomalies.


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Posted: Nov 16 2004, 01:58 AM
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Totally, off the way and pointless comment, please ignore:

The head Watcher should be Shaft...


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