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Niveus |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 06:26
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Cuendillar Armour The Age of Legends equivalent to “Land Warrior” armor using the nickel/silver plating technology they coated aluminium Plates with a very thin sheet of pure iron and then converted it into Cuendillar, the plates were then placed to protect all the vital organs into pockets within a “silk steel” suit, it comes with a full helmet that has a vitrified (transparent) steel visor. Cuendillar Amour is extremely light but ultra durable. Light Amour Def Bonus 10 or DR 6 Max Dex modifier: +5 Armor penalty: 0 Speed 30 Armor cost 20000gc or purchace DC 28 Adds +3 rep when worn Weight 15 lbs gives an equipment bonus of +8 to relfex saves versus balfire Non- Profieciency (for those who hate Armor Compatibility) Def bonus 5 or DR 3 This post has been edited by Niveus on Sep 30 2004, 10:51 PM -------------------- ![]() |
Zarozynia |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 04:58
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this sounds very good Niveus, do you mind if I add it
to my page on the AoL...you'll get credit whenever I actually have enough
info. to make a .pdf. On my own page, to save space, I may not...but if
you insist, I'll make an exception. ![]() -------------------- Legends of Darkness Are Not Always Myths - An Ongoing
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MagusRogue |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 06:13
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ummm... why do you say a suit of heartstone is as
light as studded leahter? *blinks a couple times* I'd up the Armor Check
Penalty by quite a bit. Even if it is indeed as light as leather, stone is
still quite a bit more restrictive. It would also be Medium armor,
reducing your speed to 20. Basically, what you're telling me is, this is a
breastplate of cuendillar. I propose an alternate version. Use the Adamantine rules found in DnD 3.5, and apply it to all suits that could be made of metal are instead made of cuendillar. More flexibility, insanely expensive, and still gives DR. -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
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Zarozynia |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 06:45
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I'll have to check that out.
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Niveus |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 07:36
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yeah I will change the non defence stats to that of
lacquered plate I also forgot to give it a equipment bonus to reflex saves
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MagusRogue |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 07:46
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*nods* I'd still do something like make it a building
material rather than a set suit of armor. do you need the stats on
adamantine? -------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this rant's
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Niveus |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 07:59
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now that super girl can make it yes but i was thinking more along the lines of suits found in say a treasure trove it would me qoute un qoute be modern armour hence the "land warrior" idea but i here you go -------------------- ![]() | ||
Sa_sara |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 08:29
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hmm...want the thing my group is doing with
cuendillar armor (one of our characters found out how to make it...and I
have stats somewhere on how we adjusted)? I we used base armor of one of the types of metal armors and added 2 to the AC for it and kept the penalty the same because it's still the same suit of armor, just made from metal into heartstone. But then...we're kind of simplistic. -------------------- Slayer II The Computer OF DOOM: (Slayer-Isam&
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Niveus |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 09:20
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if I was wearing full plate made from cuendillar,
realisticly I would never take damage but that is way to unbalanced so I
doubled adamantine but removed all mention of hardness and hit points
making it ultracool yet not over powered
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Niveus |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 09:22
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go ahead but i would like credit even if all it is as a foot note -------------------- ![]() | ||
Llewin |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 09:41
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OK one problem. My understanding of Cuendillar is
that it is insanely heavy compared to its equivalent volume in Iron.... so
if you made a suit of iron armor (which is very have anyway) into
cuendillar...it would make movement near impossible without mechanical aid
or the aid of the onepower to somehow move it....
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Niveus |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 09:58
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wow my bad ur right so if standard armor was made it would be insanly heavy but in the age of legends they could have made Cuendillarfoil (tinfoil) or Cuendillar-plated weapons (Silver-plated) giving the full bonus as its indestructable and making the weight a moot point for Aol gear as for current gear how about a modified hardened air weave ( an adaptive harden air weaved into a thin layer that is attached to key places on the armour and transfering the burden to the ground (like a grid work) that follows the wearer and conforming to his shape and allowing the user to move more freely) just a thought -------------------- ![]() | ||
Llewin |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 10:06
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sounds really complicated but not beyond
possible...just unlikely with the backward knowledge of the one power that
is currently around... the only ones who've found really new things are
the super girls, and those only by accident or great need, and since we
dont have a world where weapons other than simple martial weapons are used
(eg no guns) in the third age i dont know if great need
applies.... I think it might be more likely that armor was made out of the same sort of power-wrought steel used to make weapons? |
MagusExtreme |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 10:29
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reason why I suggested using Adamantine. It increases the weight and stuff for armor. here's the SRD for DnD and adamantine: damantine: This ultrahard metal adds to the quality of a weapon or suit of armor. Weapons fashioned from adamantine have a natural ability to bypass hardness when sundering weapons or attacking objects, ignoring hardness less than 20. Armor made from adamantine grants its wearer damage reduction of 1/– if it’s light armor, 2/– if it’s medium armor, and 3/– if it’s heavy armor. Adamantine is so costly that weapons and armor made from it are always of masterwork quality; the masterwork cost is included in the prices given below. Thus, adamantine weapons and ammunition have a +1 enhancement bonus on attack rolls, and the armor check penalty of adamantine armor is lessened by 1 compared to ordinary armor of its type. Items without metal parts cannot be made from adamantine. An arrow could be made of adamantine, but a quarterstaff could not. Only weapons, armor, and shields normally made of metal can be fashioned from adamantine. Weapons, armor and shields normally made of steel that are made of adamantine have one-third more hit points than normal. Adamantine has 40 hit points per inch of thickness and hardness 20.
I would add to this that it doubles the weight of the armor, and increases its Armor Check Penalty by 2. | ||||
Llewin |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 11:32
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this is definitely a good possible
solution.
One thing i want to clarify... you say
but the stuff about adamantite says: Thus, adamantine weapons and ammunition have a +1 enhancement bonus on attack rolls, and the armor check penalty of adamantine armor is lessened by 1 compared to ordinary armor of its type based on this i'm not sure if you mean it has a cumulative armor check of 2 higher than normal or 1 higher? ![]() what makes the most sense for an item that weighs twice its normal weight for example if a normal Breastplate runs about 20 lbs then one made of heartstone would be 40... and then we think about the difference between say an extra 100 pounds or more for full plate compared to 200+ if its heartstone... big difference in dexterity and speed no? | ||
Niveus |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 11:43
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k so i am leaving the Aol version of the armour alone
it is a very thin plateing over molded bronze as for current armour lets say weighs twiced as much giving a over all check of -4 but with it being masterpiece it is reduced to -2 is this more along your idea? oh and magus yes i saw your request if you reread my first entry i already did the conversion from adamantine to cuendillar but i might have to play around with the weight aspect making a thin layer of iron over an other material would be possible for blacksmiths in fact it is very commen for example iron plated wagon wheels or ornate weapons that have a decoritive finish on them of some semi precius material This post has been edited by Niveus on Sep 17 2004, 11:51 PM -------------------- ![]() |
Llewin |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 11:45
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Oh hey i wasnt at all trying to step on anyone's
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Niveus |
Posted: Sep 17 2004, 11:53
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np i didnt mean to sound harsh i kinda reedited my post a little but i want to make an accurate to RJ's world so if you see a glaring inaccuraccy im happy to fix it -------------------- ![]() | ||
Llewin |
Posted: Sep 18 2004, 01:24
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nah it sounds good i think... the only other thing i'm not sure of is the bronze plating... i dont mean to be a stickler but i *think* (and if someone thinks this is inaccurate thats fine) that heartstone has to have a base-material made of iron...thats what i understood anyway |
Niveus |
Posted: Sep 18 2004, 03:05
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if a black smith was hired to make a cuendillar sword
i would beleive he would have made a bronze or simularly cheap metal core
for it and a very thin iron shell that would be sharpend into a blade that
way the over all weight would be down and still be able to be formed into
cuendillar you could even design it in such a way as to leave it hollow at the end, and allow the molten bronze to drip from the outer shell of cuelendar it would be light and still as strong as a solid Cuendillar blade but ultra light this would allow for some sophisticated weighting of the blade via varius molten metals being inserted into the cavety (throwable?) ![]() Ever seen a cerominial saber they are often silver makeing them very flashy but it would be too expensive to make it entirely out of silver so they just silver plate it less expensive but gives same effect I just meant use the same principle, but rather then make it less expensive it makes it less heavy This post has been edited by Niveus on Sep 22 2004, 04:51 AM -------------------- ![]() |
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