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Tarl Gaidin
  Posted: May 8 2004, 08:10 AM
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Still reading through it for the first time but alot of neat material.

I am guessing most of the people that were involved still read this messageboard.

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The Great Gray Skwid
  Posted: May 9 2004, 12:24 AM
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Age of Illusions, the netbook for the Wheel of Time d20 Roleplaying Game, is now available for your viewing pleasure.

The full netbook is downloadable as a Zip file, containing a bonus of 4 PDF "Appendices" to the main book itself.

You can also view the netbook in either an art-laden or a "Light" printer-and-bandwidth-friendly form, directly from the PDF, or (for the broadband-impaired) download a zipped version of the "Light" netbook.

The files are downloadable now, from the following websites:

The Dragon Scepter
Call of The Horn [Mirror]

On behalf of all the netbook staff, we hope you enjoy it.


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Posted: May 9 2004, 06:46 AM
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Posted: May 9 2004, 07:32 AM
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Looks nice.

Someone want to pimp this at ENworld?

I know lots of folks there play. Just submit a scoop on th efront page and brace yourselves for the impact (the weekend is much slower).



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The Great Gray Skwid
  Posted: May 9 2004, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (Eosin the Red @ May 9 2004, 07:32 AM)
Looks nice.

Someone want to pimp this at ENworld?

I know lots of folks there play. Just submit a scoop on th efront page and brace yourselves for the impact (the weekend is much slower).

Yeah, I'm on it.

I had to do some Mother's Day stuff last night or I would have done it then.


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Posted: May 9 2004, 04:11 PM
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Guys, Age rocks, you all did the deed.

Thanks for carrying the torch.

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Posted: May 11 2004, 08:58 AM
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This is AWESOME. Thanks to everyone involved - you did a really great job !
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Posted: May 11 2004, 08:34 PM
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Ah, there's something for everybody. Impressive, most impressive.


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Posted: May 12 2004, 12:35 AM
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Bravo! Well done all.
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Posted: May 12 2004, 10:14 PM
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Such good stuff...my GM lets us use some of it straight ou of the box...

I gave my current character Latent Echoes of Yesterday after confronting Fain...very nice for the game


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Posted: May 13 2004, 12:14 AM
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how come you got both Asha'man Soldier and Soldier of the Black Tower? isn't that the same thing? blink.gif otherwise, awesome

Edit: Wow! there's a picture called Ice Princess.... which is a character i used in one of my older WoT games, an AoL aes sedai who froze herself in ice to avoid the war of power.... wow...

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Posted: May 13 2004, 12:43 AM
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I wondered about that picture...thank you for explaining it!


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Posted: May 13 2004, 01:00 AM
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actually, i seriously doubt that pic was based on my character... since this is the first time i mentioned her on these boards at all. cool.gif


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The Great Gray Skwid
  Posted: May 13 2004, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (MagusRogue @ May 13 2004, 12:14 AM)
how come you got both Asha'man Soldier and Soldier of the Black Tower? isn't that the same thing?  blink.gif  otherwise, awesome

Edit: Wow! there's a picture called Ice Princess.... which is a character i used in one of my older WoT games, an AoL aes sedai who froze herself in ice to avoid the war of power.... wow...

We kept both Asha'man Soldier and Soldier of the Black Tower because they were two very different approaches to the same character type. Each has their own appeal.

Lotta's art (she's the one who did Ice Princess) is great...check out her web site (NOT entirely work safe!):
http://www.flights-of-fancy.nu/

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Posted: May 14 2004, 03:30 PM
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Agreed, AOI looks great.

A minor suggestion (though I did fine without it)-- perhaps the appendicies could be zipped separately, so AOI light and the appendicies can be downloaded without having to grab the full AOI?

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Posted: May 14 2004, 03:48 PM
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I'm so wowed by this my players are already begging for some of this stuff. Thanks for all the hard work.
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Posted: May 14 2004, 10:01 PM
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Good work, folks. I replied from ENWorld, where the Great Gray Skwid brought it to my attention, so I just "carried over" my reply from there. Hope no one minds. I've been doing a lot of Wheel of Time work on my own but didn't know of any decent sites working on it. Now that I do... smile.gif

(Original thread: http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=88034)

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I've read through it - not exhaustively, but relatively well - and my initial reaction is "decent." I did prefer the first netbook, but I think that's probably because it was more grounded in the WoT setting, if that makes sense. The first netbook covered a lot of things that the published book left out. Rather large things. Not surprisingly, my favorite part of this netbook is the rules for breaking a shield - another big book bit, worked out mechanically.

That said, I do like this one, quite a bit. I'm not much of a fan of the first chapter, unfortunately - for a number of reasons. Neither of the backgrounds seemed particularly useful, though there's nothing wrong with them. The hero templates were fine, but I've thought them all unneccessary from the get go. I understand why they were included in the core book (as they expected many first time gamers to pick it up) but here? Meh. The Seaman is my biggest gripe - I don't see any need for the class, as is. The average (hero classed) Atha'an Miere can be more than adequately represented, I think, by wanderers. As a class, I don't see much point to having the seaman be a seaman - at it's core, it's a lightly-armored combatant, with a large number of skills. Similar to the 3.0 ranger, actually - with some ship-based abilities instead of favored enemies. Nothing spectacular. The number of prestige classes, I'm not going to touch - I'm known for frowning on prestige classes, because I'm not a fan of how prevalent they've become (I prefer to represent many things through multiclassing.) Of those I looked at, most seem well done, though. As for the templates - I liked the corrupted template, but not the damane. I consider it more of a RP issue than a mechanical one, but if the latter route is chosen, it works well. (One issue - I'd make the +2 bonus to the primary stat a named - morale, specifically - bonus.)

Of the rest of it, there's a lot of really good stuff. I like most of the new feats - though I haven't read them thoroughly enough to comment on balance. The same goes for the new weaves and wondrous items, though I like the flavour of all of them. The NPCs were interesting, but nothing particularly special, to me anyway. That's more due to a combination of the geek inside saying "no, no, give them these classes" and the fact that I'm not running a "modern" game with it - ours is set quite a ways back in WoT history.

As for the netbook itself, it's put together nicely - I didn't notice many spelling or grammar errors, which is nice. The formatting could use a little work, I'd note, but then, I'm a graphic design major, and notoriously picky. Overall, nice work!


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Thanks for the feedback, Terraism. Exactly the kind of constructive criticism I like to get.
Good. 'Cause I'll have more for you, just as soon as I have time to do more reading. But first I need to work my way through The Seige of Ebonring Keep.

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I'm particularly glad you liked the breaking a shield rules, as I worked part of them out myself, and was unsure whether to include them until the last moment.
You know what's funny - it's been years since I last read the Wheel of Time books - Winter's Heart had just been released. It fairly well disillusioned me with Jordan - much as I love the world, I'm sick and tired of book after book with no end in sight.

I bought the d20 book when it came out, though, because, as I said, I loved the setting. Loved the book, never got to use it. This year, it finally came up. I didn't have time during the year, but I'm planning on rereading the books this summer. Plus the two that've came out since then. Anyway - the point of this is that I'd forgotten all about the breaking of a shield. So I was doubly happy to see rules for it - reminded me of another keystone.

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I'm particularly peeved that we missed the unnamed bonus in the Damane template...we tried hard to weed those out. That template raised quite a bit of controversy, and thus the "Editor's note." FWIW, I agree with you, but I still thought others might find it useful.
Yeah, unnamed bonuses can be sketchy. And it's a hefty sized book, so it's easy to miss a few. It's got less errors than most WotC products, anyway. As far as the template being in there, I understand. I've worked on netbooks before, and I'm well aware of the amount of differing opinions you get from having dozens of people work on it.

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Go ahead and elaborate on the formatting...it's hard to get qualified criticism on that.
The first thing that jumps out on me is the column layout - while columns are certainly good things, you've got a problem because, with a number of prestige classes, the abilities table bisects the page. A reader expects to read to the bottom of the page in a column before moving on to the next - breaking over halfway, so that the order is upper left, upper right, lower left, lower right, as opposed to left-right, is distracting. Even after one realizes it, it's the kind of thing that'll subconsciously interfere with reading and material absorbtion.

As a sidenote - if you'd like to contact me, I'm on AIM as Terraism, as well.


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Posted: May 14 2004, 10:23 PM
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i agree with the damane thing. rp notes, and the asha'man prestige class (with some of the requirements changed) work perfectly with damane. also, if you wanted a good mariner class, look in the Dragonlance 3e supplement, Age of Mortals. but yeah, with some faults, it's a good one.


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Posted: May 14 2004, 11:14 PM
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hehehe, it's taken a while, but it indeed is looking good........hereby I want to thank Squid in particular for dragging us (staff) throught the whole project, and Freya for the never relenting energy that was put in.........think it turned out nicely smile.gif
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Posted: May 14 2004, 11:15 PM
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crap...forgot to log in, relpy above was mine tongue.gif


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