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Pheylorn
Posted: Nov 25 2004, 11:56 PM
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Can anyone tell me whether or not channelers can see weaves of the one power being woven without embracing the source. I know they can sense channeling and see, or feel, someone embracing the source. Just cant seem to recall whether or not seeing the weaves is possible. Thanks for any help.


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Entropic_existence
Posted: Nov 26 2004, 12:30 AM
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Yes they can, unless of course the weaves are being "reversed" which is like inverting but you do it as you weave.


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Posted: Nov 26 2004, 04:08 AM
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By "reversed," do y ou mean "unweaving?" I've always called it unweaving, but is the actual term reversing?


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Posted: Nov 26 2004, 05:57 AM
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unweaving is basically unlacing. Reversing is the word the Forsaken use.


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Posted: Nov 26 2004, 06:39 AM
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then again maybe not... if i recall when the girls got doped up with the 'anti-channeller drug' which i cant remember the name of right now they mentioned that since they couldnt reach the source they couldnt see the weaves...

also in New Spring Moiraine mentions two things as distinctly different abilities... one was 'sensing channelling' and the other was 'seeing the weaves'... so they are completely different but related...

but i think its safe to say that if you are 'capable' of channelling at any given time you can see a weave that is visible normally...eg. it is in your line of sight, of your gender, and not reversed so it is invisible... however if you are uncapable of channelling you can only sense the power being used... maybe? i dont know smile.gif lol

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Posted: Nov 26 2004, 06:50 AM
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I don't have the book on me, but isn't that a Weavesight skill use?


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Posted: Nov 26 2004, 09:00 AM
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Unlacing and/or unweaving is unmaking a pre-existing weave so that it disappears. Inverting is making a weave invisible once it has been woven. Reversing is making the whole channeling process invisible to others (it's what Graendel uses during the attack of Shadar Logoth at the end of WH). Go here for more details.

Even if you can't see the weave, you still can have many infos on it just by sensing it (which does not require to channel as every channeler in the westlands could sense the saidin cleansing party without being actually channeling). RJ go into some details in the question of the week #9 available here. He explicitely says that you can sense which powers were used in your near vicinity without actually seeing them (behind a wall, ...). But to know which weave was used, you would certainly have to see it in order to see what was actually done with the powers you sense.

I would say that you can see the flows without being channeling, or even when you are shielded (or have a block). I'll look up in the books when I have time and post what I find to confirm this.
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Llewin
Posted: Nov 26 2004, 06:22 PM
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I'm positive that nyneave mentions not being able to sense channelling when she wasnt angry enough in one of her 'point of view' places in the books... but thats only from memory, no reference
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Posted: Nov 26 2004, 06:25 PM
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Zinuk,

I was just about to disagree with you then about reversing/hiding then i read the link and realised you were right wacko.gif


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Posted: Nov 26 2004, 06:27 PM
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get this over to the new forums, dudes.


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