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Kakita Aramoro |
Posted: May 11 2004, 03:08
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for the past few minutes I've been considering
allowing chanelers to chanel an unlimited number of zero level weaves, so
long as they have al the affinities. effectively using an unlimited supply
of -1 level weave slots to chanel 0th level weaves as per having all
affinities involved. at first glance it does not seem teribly unbalancing
to me, but heck you guys are here so I might as well bounce the idea off
you. So, good idea or bad idea ? This post has been edited by Kakita Aramoro on May 11 2004, 03:08 AM |
Two Rivers Wolfbrother |
Posted: May 11 2004, 03:22
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I personally think it's fine, as long as it is only
0-level weaves. -------------------- This is an old thing, boy. Older than Aes Sedai.
Older than anybody using the One Power. Old as humankind. Old as
wolves. Current Projects: Encounters Handbook Wheel of Time 3.5 Homepage: www.towncenterproductions.com It's Funny! |
Primal Paladin22 |
Posted: May 11 2004, 03:34
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Everyone knows I am in favor of removing all
restrictions from channelers ![]() No seriously I am doing the same thing, I have yet to run into any trouble. I have made up several little patches until I can get my high fantasy magic rules all worked out and this is the first one I actually started useing. Peace J -------------------- "Me... I'm doom on two legs, and you... you're a fish
among sharks." - said the submission fighter "Lancelot" to an arrogant and
unnamed scrub. |
Zarozynia |
Posted: May 11 2004, 03:48
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I like it, but again, I have to go with Prime Paladin
in terms of me trying to adapt a fatigued based channeling system which
allows you to cast low-level weaves for free all of the
time. Basically, I would say yeah, totally. Maybe there should be a penalty if they are casting zero level weave after zero level weave for hours on end, but umm...who would do that anyways? ![]() -------------------- Legends of Darkness Are Not Always Myths - An Ongoing
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LuciusT |
Posted: May 11 2004, 12:48
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As long as you are comfortable with what it does to
game balance, go for it. I would recommend looking through the weaves and
see what 0-lvl weaves can do, just to make sure you are comfortable
with it. Personally, under such rules, I would worry about the two weaves: Grenade and Create Fire. An unlimited number of 0-lvl Grenades means an unlimited number of sling stones dealing 1d8 fire damage in someone's backpack. An unlimited number of 0-lvl Create Fire means an unlimited number of "increase fire by 1 step" which can be nasty in the hands of halfway clever players. |
Primal Paladin22 |
Posted: May 11 2004, 01:10
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1d8, just gives the channeler a weapon that is
comparable to your average armsman. A half way clever GM can counter the
create fire thing with a simple thig like a bad guy with a spear. The
truth is that this rule really does not do much for higher level
characters who are not going to be using o-level weaves in combat.
It does allow a clever channeler at low levels to remain useful as a channeler for more than just a couple of encounters. If you don't like it for game balance though you could simply say that all weaves for the purpose of mundane actions i.e. lighting a candle, closing a door, pouring tea, don't count against the players total weaves per day. Just my two cents. Peace J -------------------- "Me... I'm doom on two legs, and you... you're a fish
among sharks." - said the submission fighter "Lancelot" to an arrogant and
unnamed scrub. |
The Great Gray Skwid |
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We did this in our game and never regretted it. It
makes for a much more "by-the-books" feel, without unbalancing the game.
-------------------- Evan "Skwid" Langlinais The Humblest Mollusk on the Net http://www.thehumblest.net/ Ask me for information about the Texas Darkfriends! |
Two Rivers Wolfbrother |
Posted: May 11 2004, 05:32
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Plus, if a 0-level weave requires enough Affinities,
the channeler's not gonna be able to take it until she can grab those
Affinities. That would take a little while.
-------------------- This is an old thing, boy. Older than Aes Sedai.
Older than anybody using the One Power. Old as humankind. Old as
wolves. Current Projects: Encounters Handbook Wheel of Time 3.5 Homepage: www.towncenterproductions.com It's Funny! |
Primal Paladin22 |
Posted: May 11 2004, 06:13
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He could take it he just could not channel it an
unlimited number of times. -------------------- "Me... I'm doom on two legs, and you... you're a fish
among sharks." - said the submission fighter "Lancelot" to an arrogant and
unnamed scrub. |
Two Rivers Wolfbrother |
Posted: May 11 2004, 07:59
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What I meant. -------------------- This is an old thing, boy. Older than Aes Sedai.
Older than anybody using the One Power. Old as humankind. Old as
wolves. Current Projects: Encounters Handbook Wheel of Time 3.5 Homepage: www.towncenterproductions.com It's Funny! |
Terraism |
Posted: May 14 2004, 10:14
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I'm currently working off of "it's possible to
channel a 0th-level weave for free." Channelers may make a Concentration
check, DC 20, to attempt to channel a 0th-level weave at no cost. The DC
is fluid - you could lower it in your campaign, but it's what I find works
for me - but what it ends up doing is allowing higher-level characters to
channel minor things all day... but not lower level (weak) channelers,
which I think works well. -------------------- - Terra Chocolate: God's way of saying "no hard feelings" to those of us who aren't getting any. |
Kakita Aramoro |
Posted: May 16 2004, 12:55
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hmn, where I'm coming from is very similar, since you
are not going to start off with more than one or two affinities, you wont
be able to chanel too many of these weaves at first. but as you gain
levels, you'll probably end up picking up a few more afinities along the
way, which would increase the number of free zero level weaves you can
chanel. I guess I'm saying that the pyro can always light a candle, and
the trickster can always pinch someone's ass from ten paces away, but
youre not likely to be able to use mirror of mists for free anytime soon.
This post has been edited by Kakita Aramoro on May 16 2004, 12:57 AM |
Darius Earthbinder |
Posted: May 16 2004, 09:49
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i dont personally see a problem with this, it seems
resonable that if you are that strong in the power you would easily be
able to channel minor effects all day. but what about using an Angreal/Sa'Angreal would a power 1 let you channel 0th level weaves for free?? that is instead of making it a 1st level weave it just dosent cost the channeller any strain to channel. hmmmm.... Woould the same be true for more powerful angreal/Sa'angreal the chodan Kal would then allow any channeller (of 9th level or higher) to channel all day with no strain... hmmm seems to fit with the discription (with these we could challenge the dark one, rule the world) and callandor would only make a 9th level weave equivalent to loosing a 1st level slot (eeeeeP). interesting idea |
Zarozynia |
Posted: May 16 2004, 03:18
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Rand and Nyn channeled all day using a sa'angreal, so
I'd say...yes. -------------------- Legends of Darkness Are Not Always Myths - An Ongoing
experiment in writing/illustration/mythology Photographia Temple of the Goat - a philisophical weblog |
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