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Paladin of the Lawful Naughty
  Posted: Feb 27 2004, 12:33 AM
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How have my fellow judges handled their games as far as staying in cannon? (If your not familure with the term it is used in the comicbook industry to determin if a stories sequience of events or time line coencides with that of another story in that comic universe.) Do you run your games with Rand and friends in the world as the books unfold and occasionaly have them enteract with your game party from time to time, or do you keep them completly seperated and discount the novles alltogether? cool.gif


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Targul
Posted: Feb 27 2004, 02:21 AM
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I'm running my altered version of PotD right now, after that my players will decide what they want to do with their characters, and I stay true to canon. I fit them in and work around them maintaining the story line. I have actually mada quite a few changes to the system we use to make it more in line with my vision of how things work according to RJ as opposed to the d20 system rules.


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Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and concubines, etc.?
This is Hell we're big on irony here.
Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur.
I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself?
Correct, but I hardly see what...
So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom?
I have the entire legions of Hell at my command
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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 02:29 AM
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I try and stay within the books storyline, without disrupting it TOO much, but there are some changes. For example, my group just RP'ed the split of the White Tower, and things went a lot WORSE than in the books - but the fall-out will be pretty much the same. The same AS will make it to Salidar, and the same rat-bags will be living it up in the Tower.

Other than Falme and the WT Split, though, most of my plot has been away from book events.

Sometimes I think it'd be much easier to ignore the story of the books altogether. I seem to spend a lot of time detailing time-lines & book events to do the tie-ins, which is a neat touch, but a lot of work. I'm learning to compromise between nice touches and going too far overboard, but each session I still try and figure out what's going on within the books at the time.

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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 02:38 AM
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How did your WT split go anyway Dortamur? What did you end up doing/using?
Just kinda curious is all.


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Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and concubines, etc.?
This is Hell we're big on irony here.
Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur.
I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself?
Correct, but I hardly see what...
So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom?
I have the entire legions of Hell at my command
Enjoy it while you can, Skippy.

-Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style)
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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 03:49 AM
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Actually, with the game I'm running, it's very difficult to follow canon. I'm GMing a pbem for a friend of mine where we each play 2 PCs. It's an Asha'man game. The storyline is about how Rand, Mat, and Perrin have been killed, dooming the world. In order to save it, Taim, after consulting the Aes Sedai, Wise Ones and Windfinders, are sending the Dedicated we play to Mirror Worlds to find an alternate Rand, Mat, and Perrin to fight Tarmon Gai'don. Their way of thinking is that if they live in a world without ta'veren, there must be a world where the Three are not ta'veren. Therefore, if they are able to find Rand, Mat, and Perrin in another world and bring them to theirs, the Three could be ta'veren and have all the abilities they need to fight the Dark One in the Last Battle. I decided to come up with that storyline so I wouldn't have to worry about canon, and I could set the different chapters in any kind of variation of a world I want to. Think of it as "Wheel of Time: Sliders."


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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 03:54 AM
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Yeah. Hmmm is Taim the evil bastard that we all know him to be from the books in your world or is your world not the world of the books but an alternate one where Taim is good and the 3 are all fish food?


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Wait, if I DID evil, and you guys here ARE evil. Then shouldn't you be showering me with rewards and concubines, etc.?
This is Hell we're big on irony here.
Then I'm sure you'll appreciate what is going to occur.
I'm dead, so this is some egoscopic projection of myself?
Correct, but I hardly see what...
So without any fleshy meats to slow me down, how long do you REALLY think it'll take for me to usurp your entire kingdom?
I have the entire legions of Hell at my command
Enjoy it while you can, Skippy.

-Black Mage in Hell (8-bit theater style)
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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 04:11 AM
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Hehehehe... You'll have to follow the storyline to find out tongue.gif Which you can at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OneWeaveManyPatterns/ Suffice it to say, my idea of Taim probably isn't what other people expect of him, and it won't be found out until later in the storyline. The game has just started and Taim have just sent the 4 Dedicated to go do their job, so we're just going to our first world now. If anyone is interested, I fully support lurkers checking it out.


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But I'm looking to the stars!
Shatter your rose-colored glasses
But never stop dreaming.
I may have my feet down to earth
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I won't promise you the sun and the moon
But I can tell you fantasies of far greater things
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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE (Paladin of the Lawful Naughty @ Feb 26 2004, 06:33 PM)
...cannon? (If your not familure with the term it is used in the comicbook industry to determin if a stories sequience of events or time line coencides with that of another story in that comic universe.)

Minor quibble, and information.....

It's canon, not cannon.

The origin of the word in the context you are using it often has a religious connotation (though your example was also correct.) From Merriam Webster:
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3 [Middle English, from Late Latin, from Latin, standard] a : an authoritative list of books accepted as Holy Scripture b : the authentic works of a writer c : a sanctioned or accepted group or body of related works <the canon of great literature>

Great literature indeed biggrin.gif


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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 05:48 PM
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I sorta stay in the novels, but then again I don't. Basically, I'll stay with the novels as long as I can, but when it comes to it, I'll alter things just to make my story interesting. For the most part, though, I try to stay away from Rand and them.


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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 08:11 PM
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I run homebrew worlds...
Actually I don't play WoT at all, my friends and I just use the classes in place of the lousy 3e class system...
So..... no worries!


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Paladin of the Lawful Naughty
Posted: Feb 27 2004, 08:54 PM
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KSBsnowowl The origin of the word in the context you are using it often has a religious connotation (though your example was also correct.) From Merriam Webster:
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3 [Middle English, from Late Latin, from Latin, standard] a : an authoritative list of books accepted as Holy Scripture b : the authentic works of a writer c : a sanctioned or accepted group or body of related works <the canon of great literature>

Great literature indeed


I bow before before your experteise, and say again "I learn something new every day!". Help keep a felow brother on the narrow path if you would! cool.gif


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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 10:24 PM
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I'm with Axel on this one. but IF i was going to run Wot then i would stick to the books. But there are big blank spaces where anything can happen wink.gif


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Posted: Feb 27 2004, 11:19 PM
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I generally like to stick to the books as well. As Manty said, there are large holes where you can stick stuff in if you'd like; especially in the first 3 or 4 books that cover months at a time. I also like to generally start campaigns before TEotW. I started one about ten years after the Aiel War. That gave me plenty of room in which to work.


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Posted: Feb 28 2004, 03:07 AM
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I stick to the books... sorta.

My campaign is set 400 years before Eye of the World, during the last time the Great Hunt was called. The world is similar enough to be recognizable and comprehendable to my players as WoT. At the same time, it's far enough removed that we have the freedom to create our own heroes, villians and legends. I have told my players that they can "change history" and fracture the setting off into the Mirror World, but they haven't yet managed it. smile.gif
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