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Posted: Sep 7 2004, 10:13 PM
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I kinda wanted to know the processes for making things like fancloth and other supernatural materials. Thanks for the help.


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Posted: Sep 8 2004, 01:38 AM
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I remember someone had made weaves to create them. however there is no mention in any of the books (as far as I can recall) as to how to make fancloth or the mood- cloth(whatever its called), except for the fancloth producing ter-angreal in the white tower. The white tower terangreal makes me think that douring the age of legends these materials were mass produced the same way we mass produce cloth today, only with the power instead of electricity. laugh.gif
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Posted: Sep 8 2004, 01:53 AM
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We actually know they were mass produced during the Age of Legends. There were a few quotes in one of the books, or more, about how they were high fashion garments. Then when the War of the Shadow broke out all fancloth went into military uses for obvious reasons. Streith is the mood cloth and likely remained a fashion garment, or production of such luxury items may have ground to a trickle during the war anyway.


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Posted: Sep 8 2004, 02:56 AM
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And what's whitestone? Is that just cuendillar?
Are weaves normally required to make fancloth and moodcloth? Or is it more of a type of decorative tailoring and design?

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Posted: Sep 8 2004, 03:42 PM
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Whitestone we haven't been given much on but I don't think it is white ceundillar, which didn't seem the sort of thing you would build with. I'd say it's a One Power manufactured version of that new transparent concrete that has recentl;y been developed.

As for Fancloth and Streith, I'd say yes...definitly need weaves. a Ter'angreal makes the fancloth used in Warder cloaks so that means it needs the One Power. Streith I would imagien is the same. Fancloth is likely modiefied to mimic the invisibility type weaves I would think.


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Posted: Sep 10 2004, 01:45 AM
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I was under the impression that the Ter'angreal produced the cloth itself and that it was made into cloaks. I'd say that its possible to do on your own but during the AoL it was mass produced (much like cottage industry as opposed to factory production)


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Posted: Sep 10 2004, 03:07 AM
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Yes, the ter'angreal makes the cloth. Ter'angreal use the One Power to perform a task, so the One Power is therefore involved in it's making. smile.gif


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Posted: Sep 11 2004, 07:43 AM
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The White Stone, such as that used on the White Bridge in the town of the same name is called elstone. You can find a minimal amount of information on it in the BBOBA. As to making the different clothes I don't remember any mention of mass production. High Fashion maybe but the sheer number of Aes Sedai it would take to mass produce such things makes it unlikely. As far as ter'angreal are concerned anything that can be done with a ter'angreal should feasibly be able to be done by a channeler, the fancloth ter'angreal is the only means of making the material now since any channeler who could do it naturally is long dead. Of course Moridin does have a full suit of it including mask, the Light only knows where he got it.


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Posted: Sep 11 2004, 10:52 PM
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So you don't think it's possible to make it naturally then, right? Like, even a powerful channeler couldn't do it? Or is it just that it's forgotten or something?


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Posted: Sep 12 2004, 05:03 PM
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As ter'angreal are essentially Wondrous Items from dnd, there's got to be some basis for their creation. I assume there was once a weave that you can use to alter the properties of items, such as turning cotton into fancloth. Look around for weaves at kinslayersdagger.com.


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Posted: Sep 13 2004, 05:55 AM
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I'd have to say this goes under the 'lost weaves' category, Wolf smile.gif

Make a weave for it along the lines of the cloak of shadows or some such
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Posted: Sep 13 2004, 03:47 PM
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There is a weave presented for this in the Age of Illusions Netbook.
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Posted: Sep 23 2004, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (Two Rivers Wolfbrother @ Sep 7 2004, 08:13 PM)
Who's the bald guy on the cover of WH?

Elyas was the consensus on rasfwr-j, IIRC...


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Posted: Sep 23 2004, 11:35 PM
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Oh! Elyas. I imagined he'd be hairier. Thanks Skwid!


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Posted: Sep 24 2004, 05:23 PM
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I also posted rules for making ter'angreal, and one power cloth somewhere on the board, at one point. You can find them at my WoT website, if you're interested, under the Age of legends category.

Slightly different from those in the netbook, I made them more specific to specific types of ter'angreal rather than just having one category.


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Posted: Oct 6 2004, 10:39 AM
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I think he's the former secretary to the Whitecloak commander murdered by Eamon Valda.

Can't remember, but he's bird-like, at least from the descriptions in the books, and has joined Perrin's entourage.
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Posted: Oct 6 2004, 10:13 PM
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Hmm, now there's two opinions.


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Posted: Oct 8 2004, 10:42 AM
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Well, from what I remember in the book, Elyas had a long trimmed beard, and wore that fur cap. I think he also wore more animals skins instead of colors...
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Posted: Oct 9 2004, 02:49 AM
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*chuckle* do you assume the cover artists for this book are any more accurate than any of the other books? i wouldnt be surprised if that older gentleman was meant to be an aiel *laugh*
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Posted: Oct 9 2004, 03:21 AM
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I always thought he was meant to be Masema...but then, I thought that what is apparently Tuon on CoT was a new character (she looks like a 7 year old boy in a military dress uniform) that Sweet made up.
We have had a different Rand on every book cover...
Darrel K. Sweet just stinks.


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