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> The Damane PrC, Or my attempt at one.
Blaeric Fen
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:57 PM
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I was under the impression that the A'dam allowed the sul'dam to basically, point blank, see the channelers, see the glow when channeling, control the damanes senses, & control the damanes channeling abilities. so wouldn't an a'dam be a S&M linking device? where one has the power over the other?


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:58 PM
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i thought the A'dam allowed Sul'dam to use the Damane's ability with the one Power,


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (Mantyluoto @ Feb 6 2004, 01:55 PM)
i thought the A'dam allowed Sul'dam to use the Damane's ability with the one Power, but not by allowing them to channel themselves, so they wouldn't need weaave sight with the Damane telling them if someone's channeling nearby.

i think that a Sul'dam should have things like intimidate (Damane), pain (reverse of heal) etc etc.

that's the thing, though, manty. They eventually start noticing that they THEMSELVES can see the weaves cast. It only comes with time using the a'dam, but all sul'dam eventually notice they can weavesight on their own. Remember the supergirl's (and previously, Egeanin's) discovery with the sul'dam? Note that no sul'dam will EVER willingly admit to seeing the weaves. But it does happen.

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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:00 PM
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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:00 PM
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This is all explained in.... Path of Daggers, is it? And later, in Winter's Heart, they know that the sul'dam they captured can see weaves, and it literally takes them a month to make her admit she can see on her own. That doesn't mean she's a channeler herself, yet.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:04 PM
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But she has the ability, how can that work? in a RPing way of thinking though.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (Blaeric Fen @ Feb 6 2004, 02:04 PM)
But she has the ability, how can that work? in a RPing way of thinking though.

what do you mean?


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:06 PM
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it means she has the weavesight skill as a cross class skill


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Blaeric Fen
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:07 PM
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That explains it Manty, it would be a cross-class skill at first, souldn't it.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:10 PM
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i'd have it that it'll become a class skill eventaully in the Sul'dam class.... like i said, i'm still working on it.


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Blaeric Fen
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:13 PM
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Like weavesight would be added as a class skill at a certain level? that makes sense.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 07:16 PM
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pretty much


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 09:42 PM
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Everyone with arms is born with the ability to swing a sword, but not everyone has levels in armsman. Levels in initiate reflect training in wielding the One Power.

Moreover, Sul'dam would not even want to admit they could channel if they wanted to.

MagusRogue, I'd do the Sul'dam PrC in such a way as their abilities grant Bonus Channeling Feats (including the metaweave feats) to their Damane. If you are doing a 5 level PrC then at 5th level they could grant Create A'dam to their Damane even if they don't meet the prerequisites (i.e. Latent Maker).

For some of their Requirements I'd use things like ranks in Diplomacy, and Knowledge Noblity and Royalty and maybe Knowledge Arcana. Remember, any woman can use an A'dam, but Sul'dam have special training and cultural norms that make them different than Nynaeve holding Moghedien on a leash. You follow me?


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MagusRogue
Posted: Feb 6 2004, 09:47 PM
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*nods* i follow ya, Sharn. I was also thinking they could enhance the damage they can do through their a'dam at a certain level... Also a Forcing ability that gives them bonuses to overchanneling, stackable with Control features.... Any other abilities through the a'dam that we haven't seen?
And should i make this a 5-level or 10-level class?


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 09:52 PM
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The more I think about it, I can see a 10 level PrC out of this. Some abilities to work through their Damane, and some for themselves (like intimidate bonuses, etc.) A'dam specialization could be an ability that allows them to use the A'dam to cause more damage (like you said). Increased ability to Force would be good. The Create A'dam should be a Tenth Level ability. I just don't think that everyone of them would have this ability so that would limit it to some extent.


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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 10:12 PM
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hrm.... I'm thinking a bonus channeling feat every 3 levels... A'dam specialization at 4th.... yeah, Create A'dam either at 8th or 10th level... go with the standard tradition Iron Will and Presence at 1st level.... ummm... Damane control at 2nd, improved at 7th.... let's see..... here, lemme list in order of what we got...
  • 1) Iron Will, Sul'dam Presence
  • 2) Damane Control
  • 3) Bonus Channeling Feat
  • 4) A'dam Specialization
  • 5) Empty
  • 6) Bonus Channeling Feat
  • 7) Improved Damane Control
  • 8) Empty
  • 9) Bonus Channeling Feat
  • 10) Create A'dam

that's two slots left open..... or.... should i have less channeling feats... and...

Wait, need to have channeling skills available to them... like Weavesight at level 5, and channeling ability at level 8 maybe? what do you think?

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Posted: Feb 6 2004, 10:20 PM
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For some of their Requirements I'd use things like ranks in Diplomacy, and Knowledge Noblity and Royalty and maybe Knowledge Arcana.


i'd go with Sharns ideas on this, make them Skill Focus or something


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