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ranix65
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posted October 24, 2002 10:51 AM
I haven't
bought the book yet(I plan on picking it up 2morrow after I
get paid, along with the BoVD), what's the magic system like,
is it easy to integrate new spells into it, for example, from
Relics and Rituals 1 & 2, because I really love those
books. I've heard that Wheel of Time system is better for
worlds where magic is a bit less common but very very
powerful, I was gonna run a mid magic world, I really dislike
the FR for how much magic seems to just be floating around in
there.
Also, how do forms work?And just as a final
question, how, as a whole, does the rest of D20 material mesh
with WoT? Well, or not so good?
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Harkael
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posted October 24, 2002 10:59 AM
Well as for
integration i would say no, not easily without changing the
campaign setting or tampering with the rules. Considering
that it wasnt written to be similar to dnd. The novels
themselves have a very non-dnd feel to them. However certain
parts of it could be placed in another setting, with
adjustments of course. just my
opinion
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ranix65
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posted October 24, 2002 11:12 AM
WEll, I'm
not looking to play in the WoT setting, I've never read the
books(although I probably should, I've heard they're
excellent). I'm homebrewing a world of sword and sorcery,
looking for a new magic system, but I love a lot of the D20
systems spells, so I was wondering if they could be integrated
into the WoT magic system.
Also, as for the Sword
Form's question, I was wondering about that because dueling
and sword fights are gonna be a big part of the flavor of my
world, so I needed some info on
that.
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Harkael
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posted October 24, 2002 11:35 AM
Ok then,
well another thing i forgot to mention about the new system is
that it makes quite a difference as to whether your male or
female. Also there are certain aspects of "channeling" as its
called, that are balanced out only by certain disadvantages
that only exist in the WoT setting. As for the sword forms
they are just fancy names for abilities that the blademaster
gets. Like calling sneak attack "bat on silent wings" (thats
not a blademaster ability mind you) Basically channeling is
unbalancing without some of the things from the campaign
setting. One more thing, the blademaster is a Prestige
Class
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Milosh
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posted October 24, 2002 11:43 AM
And if you
want to do ALOT of duels, you probally want to buy a Oriental
Adventures book, and use Iajatsu Duel? ( 5 bucks says I
spelled that wrong! ) but the magic system is way better than
DnD must i say Over channel
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ranix65
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posted October 24, 2002 11:48 AM
Alright
then, gracious thanks. I'll probably look it over tomorrow(or
maybe today, I found a few extra bucks in my bedroom), and see
what stuff is used to balance out the channelers, it can
probably be integrated into my world as well; it's very much a
very basic set of ideas still; I just don't like running games
in what I perceive as someone else's world, such as the world
of WoT; I prefer to create a new world from the ground up, and
since this is gonna be the world that I, hopefully, am gonna
be running in for many years to come, I wanna do it right the
1st time, at least with such crucial things as the spell
system.
Thanks for the input, BTW, hope you'll have a
reply; possibly, telling me what certain things are in WoT to
help balance out the channelers?
And as a final note, I
have no problem with the spellcasting being different based on
whether or not you're male or
female.
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ranix65
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posted October 24, 2002 11:56 AM
Thanx
Milosh, I actually already have Oriental Adventures, next
weeks purchases are: Rokugan Way of the Samurai And
the Monsternomicon(not related to the dueling)
So I
should have plenty to keep me occupied finishing off the
fluffys for the dueling(and most of my world, for that
matter), I'm hoping to create a whole load of
duelist/adventuring PrCs for the warrior types so they feel
really distinct; I've got a word document of dueling PrCs(most
of em 5-levels) posted on ENWorld WAY back in the day for
inspiration(if anyone wants em, just gimme ur email address,
they're pretty good).
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posted October 24, 2002 12:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ranix65: Thanks for
the input, BTW, hope you'll have a reply; possibly, telling
me what certain things are in WoT to help balance out the
channelers?
In the world of WoT, channelers are under some pretty
severe social stigmas. That's the single largest balancing
factor, right there. Aside from that, if you're creating your
own world, I would make it one where Ter'angreal (magic items)
are significantly more common...perhaps one where their
manufacture is still known. This could provide a much more
balanced RPG for non-channeling
characters.
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ranix65
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posted October 24, 2002 12:19 PM
alrighty,
thanx for that info, although obviously, among the elves,
channelers probably won't be having too much of a social
stigma. The ways of constructing magical items are definitely
still gonna be known. Also, I'm thinking of integrating a
psionics system, since in the history of my world, we have the
Ultima Wars, fought between the forces of good(dwarves, elves,
humans, and centaurs) and the Illithid Empire.
Yes, I
expect to have to do quite a bit of work for this to even be
playable. However, at least where we've played, the rules of
playing are: "If it works for the DM, and it works for the
players, then it just works. Let it go.
Also, the
playable races are(at least for right
now): Dwarves Elves Humans Centaurs Hobgoblins(actually
a psionic hybrid of elf and dwarf, created by the Illithids as
foot soldiers for the Ultima Wars; they're faster, tougher,
and more likely to be psionic than humans) Rock Trolls(from
Dragon #???; they're from Terry Brooks' Shannara
novels)
I figure that should make for an interesting
game.
NOTE:Unless somebody else can suggest some good
psionics systems, I'm probably gonna end up using Ken Hood's
Alternate Psionics systems, although when I get the WoT book,
if the D&D psionics system and the WoT Channelers look
like they could coexist(love my players. ALthough they like to
min-max once in awhile, and who doesn't, most, even the newbie
to all roleplaying, are hardcore roleplayers, choosing classes
they like, even if they suck), I'll probably use the D&D
psionics system.
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posted October 24, 2002 02:49 PM
Actually,
out there somewhere there is a complete list of all the sword
forms (like arounf 40-60 of them, i can't remember exactly how
many), but they are a bit of a touchy subject due to being
used without permission. If you look at old posts relating to
the netbook Under the Dragons Banner, and sword forms, you
might be able to find the original ones. I hope I don't get
into trouble talking about this. Its like farting in public
from what I can tell, because since the controversey, there
has no been a single thread concerning sword
forms.
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