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DaystromX
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posted May 12, 2003 03:23 PM
I don't
remember if it was here, but I remember seeing a discussion
about the 13 sisters vs 1 man aspect of shielding. Either way,
I figured that someone here might be intersted in what I dug
up.
The question was whether the oft repeated fact that
the thirteen weakest sisters in the White Tower could shield
Rand was something special about the number 13 or just based
on any 13 sisters being stronger than the strongest man. Well,
in Fires of Heaven, chapter 3, Asmodean is speaking to Rand
and says "Thirteen women who can barely channel could
overpower most men, linked. The thirteen weakest women in the
Tower could overpower you, or any man." This seems to say that
there is nothing special about 13, except that that is the
number of sisters it would take to be guarenteed to be
stronger than one man.
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skyman
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posted May 12, 2003 05:10 PM
Hmm...
true. But thirteen could also be a number that grants some
extra strength to the circle, making thirteen weak channelers
stronger than say, 12 strong
ones.
-------------------- "Death comes sooner or
later to everyone unless they serve the Dark One, and only
fools are willing to pay that price." -Lan
Mandragoran
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Freya
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posted May 13, 2003 06:54 AM
I always
assumed 13 was the magic number because that is the upper
limit of women who can link together without a man in the
circle.
I'm sure if we went back to the chapter when
the Aes Sedai were forming circles to defend themselves in
Salidar, you'll see a lot of circles of 13. ![[Smile]](Wizards_Com Boards Circles Shielding_fichiers/smile.gif)
-------------------- felicia AKA Freya
Culadin
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Sharn_Penndroen Member Member
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posted May 14, 2003 11:47 AM
I believe
that the number 13 has some significance. It also requires
thirteen channelers channeling through 13 Myddraal to force a
channeler over to the shadow.
-------------------- A
man who will not die to save a woman is no man. - Shienaran
Saying
The Light shine on you, and the Creator shelter
you. The last embrace of the mother welcome you home. -
Shienaran Funeral Ceremony
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The Great Gray
Skwid Member Member
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posted May 14, 2003 01:14 PM
I agree. I
think there are significant structural differences in shields
made by different numbers of people, and I think a shield held
by a circle of thirteen could shield anyone, period, resisting
or not. Likewise, a circle of six holding a shield already
present should be impossible to break (Isn't that what "LTT"
tells Rand in the chest? I can't recall
exactly...).
-------------------- Evan "Skwid"
Langlinais The Humblest Mollusk on the Net http://www.thehumblest.net/ Ask me for
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Sharn_Penndroen Member Member
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posted May 14, 2003 01:18 PM
Yes, that
is what he tells him. As long as 6 hold the shield, he can't
break it, but if they tie it off, he can. The 6 must remain
holding the shield.
-------------------- A man who
will not die to save a woman is no man. - Shienaran
Saying
The Light shine on you, and the Creator shelter
you. The last embrace of the mother welcome you home. -
Shienaran Funeral Ceremony
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