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UniversalJoker
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posted September 19, 2002 06:05 AM      Profile for UniversalJoker   Email UniversalJoker    Edit/Delete Post
I don't know if this has been discussed before here or not, but last night in my game a male wilder bonded a male woodsman. Does anyone think that there might be any odd effects from a male bonding a male? I was wondering if the warder would be able to feel the taint, or be effected by the taint in some way? What do you think?
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Arr MiHardies
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posted September 19, 2002 07:55 AM      Profile for Arr MiHardies   Email Arr MiHardies    Edit/Delete Post
we've had the same discussion about this. it involved an Aes Sedai bonding a male channeler, you might want to search for that post. I believe we ended up deciding GM discretion.

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posted September 19, 2002 09:33 AM      Profile for Freya      Edit/Delete Post
As far as the taint 'leaking in,' I would look at the thread mentioned above.

For differences to the Bond between two men, I would suggest looking to the differences found in Elayne and Brigitte's Bond. The sense of where the other is still works as usual. But, what I can only describe as 'chemical' reactions were definately different. Case in point being where Elayne became drunk from Brigitte drinking. I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head. Be creative. The Bond should be different, have fun with it. [Smile]

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posted September 19, 2002 11:51 AM      Profile for Isam   Email Isam    Edit/Delete Post
My Asha'man bonded the partys armsman (soon to be blademaster) we just roleplayed it, the armsman, can feel all that the Asha'man can but greatly reduced

(in my game people also have to take fortitude checks when being healed by a male channeler, to better simulate the books)

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posted September 19, 2002 12:40 PM      Profile for wierdbob      Edit/Delete Post
Robert Jordan has stated in the past that a man bonding a man is different to a woman bonding a man and is also diferent to a woman bonding a woman but he didn't elaborate on exactly what the effects would be.

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Melriken
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posted September 19, 2002 03:04 PM      Profile for Melriken   Email Melriken    Edit/Delete Post
IMHO when a channaler of the opposite gender bonds a warder (A) happens

when a channaler of the same gender bonds a warder (A) happens, but they are also drawn closer, so that things affecting one happen to the other, drunk, and Menstral cycles are two that come to mind, but other things could happen too (arousal in males, hunger, being light headed due to no food or lower than normal oxegen)

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posted September 20, 2002 01:40 AM      Profile for Moridin00      Edit/Delete Post
/me disappionted, the subject of this thread was provocative.

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posted September 20, 2002 07:43 AM      Profile for The Great Gray Skwid   Email The Great Gray Skwid    Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Moridin00:
/me disappionted, the subject of this thread was provocative.

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posted September 27, 2002 03:28 AM      Profile for Tam al'Moff   Email Tam al'Moff    Edit/Delete Post
If RJ says that a male-male bond is different again then I would guess that everything is reversed between male and females in an asexual bond.

I would rule that a male male bond would share no emotional content. They would only have the very basic bond benefits such as knowing where the other was and being able to share HP.

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posted September 27, 2002 03:41 AM      Profile for Jkol the Butcher   Email Jkol the Butcher    Edit/Delete Post
In a slightly unrelated note the phrase is "If it aint broke - your not trying" - Red Green

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posted October 04, 2002 08:40 AM      Profile for Milosh   Email Milosh    Edit/Delete Post
[Beholder] I think that if a male were to bond another male, the warder in a man bonding man issue would be that he would have almost a complete mental link, way more than the normal bond desc. of what happens, I would believe that since it is the same gender that the other would be way more senstive to what was happening to the other via emotions and physical pain but i also believe if the other was killed I think it would be way more harmful to the warder or bonder, Example when Moriane dies and lan becomes extremlly withdrawn, if it was the same gender I believe that even to a bad ass like lan would almost , not know how to react to such a act, maybe go crazy, die themselves im sure it would feel as if part of them died, so i dont know if bonding of the same sex would be good for you in my game! Because with Eylane and her warder they feel the others exact feelings at the moment which means it should make for some good RP!!! You guys take it easy [Devilish]
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posted October 04, 2002 10:15 AM      Profile for Melriken   Email Melriken    Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Milosh:
...when Moriane dies...

I do not belive that Moraine is dead...

we know that Lanfier came back in a new body, but we also know that she was 'held by the Elifinn' (SP) so it is entirely plausable to assume that they survived going into the door because in order to go through you can't have been through before (iirc) and so inorder to be held she would need to have survived the entry, then be held, then die, then be reborn.

if that happened to one of them, you must assume that Moriane also survived the entry, what happened after that is anyones guess (well RJ knows), but I belive that she survived and will be back at some point.

read the WoT FAQ for more thoughts on this matter

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