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Lytin Sedangeri
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posted May 14, 2003 12:02 PM      Profile for Lytin Sedangeri   Email Lytin Sedangeri    Edit/Delete Post
Hey, my character just got herself an angreal [Smile]
and so I have a two questions (for now).
1: Is it true that it makes spells more powerful and not just cheaper?

2: what effects should an angreal have when it comes to shielding? In the books an angreal made the difference of life and death for rand and others, but nothing is mentioned in the rules under angreals or shielding...

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Freya
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posted May 14, 2003 01:16 PM      Profile for Freya      Edit/Delete Post
Angreal do allow you the ability to use more powerful (read: higher level) weaves. They do so, in game terms, by making them cheaper. Example: The highest level your character can weave un-aided is 4th level weaves. A rating 2 angreal would allow you to weave 6th level weaves without having to overchannel. In effect, 6th level weaves would only 'cost' a 4th level slot.

Remember though, that using an angreal acts as a small beacon...especially if using it to channel high level weaves. You may be using a lower level weave slot, but the power put into that weave is much more than without.

As for shielding...the mechanics are still the same. Before, your character could only weave a 4th level Shielding weave...now, with the angreal, they can weave a 6th level Shielding weave. Look at the differences between 4th and 6th level Shields and you will see the difference between life and death.

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posted May 14, 2003 01:23 PM      Profile for Sharn_Penndroen   Email Sharn_Penndroen    Edit/Delete Post
Not only are the effects increase, but along with that, since you are casting a leave 6 weave instead of level 4 the Save vs the weave is 2 points higher. This can also be the difference between life and death.

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Lytin Sedangeri
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posted May 14, 2003 02:10 PM      Profile for Lytin Sedangeri   Email Lytin Sedangeri    Edit/Delete Post
ok, then how about when someone is trying to shield me?
how will the angreal affect this?

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Lord_of_the_Seven_Towers
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posted May 15, 2003 06:00 AM      Profile for Lord_of_the_Seven_Towers      Edit/Delete Post
OK im not positive but as far as i am aware the way you stop being shielded is you have two severe threads with the power so that the opposing channeler cannot complete the weave. Rands battle with asmodean is a good example of this i think. I cant remember exactly how he avoids being shielded by lanfear but well work on the premise you can see the threads (so same half of the power being used against you) and you can cut them. The green swordsman angreal just helps rand to channel more so he can keep cutting threads as well as weaving his own. This is why you are less threatened when you have an angreal not because it itself protects you. Unless of course its Matt's medalion that protects him against channelers, female ones at least.

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Freya
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posted May 15, 2003 07:17 AM      Profile for Freya      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Lytin Sedangeri:
ok, then how about when someone is trying to shield me?
how will the angreal affect this?

Well, I'm still not clear on the 'sever' weave or any of that. But, I do know that if your character has an action 'readied', they can perform a counterweave to counter the shield being weaved at them. To perform a counterweave, you 1) have to know the weave being weaved [must succede a weavesight test], and 2) weave the same weave at the same or higher level. So, the angreal might give you that edge to reach the weave level of the shield being thrown at you.

I know it doesn't mimic the books well, but that's how WotC set it up.

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Unless of course its Matt's medalion that protects him against channelers, female ones at least.

And male. Everyone forgets Halima...

[ May 15, 2003, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: Freya ]

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posted May 15, 2003 12:14 PM      Profile for Lord_of_the_Seven_Towers      Edit/Delete Post
If it works against saidin and saidar then maybe he would be generous enough to lend it to Rand for a while, though i get the impression that it will probably only work for Mat as it was he who asked for it and subsequently paid the price. Still if it does work then the forsaken would be shocked next time Rand comes a calling and hes an all weaving all blademastering King thats immune to channeling effects.
If it protects against the power (i think thats what mat stipulated) and it works against saidar and saidin then i wonder if it protects him from channelers who wield the true source ,now that would be cool, and very powerful.

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posted May 15, 2003 05:22 PM      Profile for lostone      Edit/Delete Post
I got the impression that if a channeler wore it they wouldn't be able to channel either. At least that is the way I'd play it.
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