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drothgery
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posted October 10, 2002 06:24 PM      Profile for drothgery      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Milosh:
Elminster is highly over rated, i mean lvl 20 wiz lvl 5 fighter? gets stuck in hell cant use magic but still gets out, the only thing i can think of why hes so strong is his never ending smoking pipe of elminsters homegrown!

I would think that a forsaken has got the levels to match him too, so maybe a forsaken would stop elminster! [Beholder]

Sorry Must have had some homegrown of my own [ROFL]

Err (grabs books), Elminster is Ftr 1/Rogue 2/Cleric 3/Wizard 20/Archmage 5/Epic 4 with the Chosen of Mystra template by the FRCS beyond-20th-level rules, or Elminster is Ftr 1/Rogue 2/Cleric 3/Wizard 24/Archmage 5 with the Chosen of Mystra template by the Epic Level Handbook.

A reasonable Rand (as opposed to the one in the rulebook that relied on loopy levels of ta'veren bonuses to avoid making him an epic-level character), IMO, is Arm 4/Wds 1/Alg 1/Wil 12/Ini 5.

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Harkael
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posted October 10, 2002 07:17 PM      Profile for Harkael   Email Harkael    Edit/Delete Post
Well i suppose the picking of the nits goes both ways eh? I'm not sure where Rand would find time to gain levels in Algai'd' siswai, considering his use of a sword would prevent any exp gain in that direction, also, how did you forget his blademaster levels?
Elminster would have the advantages either way, but calandor is basically a major level boost in casting ability. Not that it matters, Rand is a cooler character by far, his lesser power in dnd cant change that, in my opinion anyway.

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posted October 11, 2002 07:16 AM      Profile for Freya      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Harkael:
Well i suppose the picking of the nits goes both ways eh? I'm not sure where Rand would find time to gain levels in Algai'd' siswai, considering his use of a sword would prevent any exp gain in that direction, also, how did you forget his blademaster levels?

Rand surely found time to learn with Rhuarc in *both* The Shadow Rising and The Fires of Heaven. While Jordan didn't go into detailed descriptions of the training, there are mutliple mentions of Rand spending time learning to fight with spears and hand/feet. When not training with Aiel methods with Rhuarc, he worked the sword with Lan. Or, met with clan chiefs, etc.
He deserves a level of Algai*.

And yeah, he should probably have a level or two of blademaster, I imagine. [Big Grin]

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drothgery
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posted October 11, 2002 12:47 PM      Profile for drothgery      Edit/Delete Post
I'm not some kind of FR fanboy (I've got most of the 3e FR rules stuff -- though I haven't used it in an actual game, but I don't have anything earlier, and own no novels and have no intention of changing this). But generally speaking, D&D magic is more versatile than WoT channeling, and item creation is much easier (making magic items a viable use for much of the great wealth of by-the-book high level D&D characters), so at the highest levels, D&D characters are more powerful.

I'm not sure Rand really needs Blademaster levels; the BAB of 23rd-level character is pretty good on its own, with 6 levels of warrior-type classes. And it's really hard to say that he had any before he was in the Epic-level range, so they'd do less good.

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Harkael
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posted October 11, 2002 01:01 PM      Profile for Harkael   Email Harkael    Edit/Delete Post
Fair enough

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