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masterkorgin
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posted September 20, 2002 10:17 AM      Profile for masterkorgin      Edit/Delete Post
Hello all,

I'm GM'ing WOT and the players are constantly trying to weavesight or sense residue on male angreal(they are male channelers) to assertain how to learn weave. I argued that you can't sense residue on something that old and you can't use weavesight because the one power used to MAKE it therefore the weave is locked inside and there is nothing to see. My question is..Am I right? please help as this is becoming an epidemic!

Best reguards,

Korgin.

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Wowbangers the Infinitely Prolonged
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posted September 20, 2002 10:34 AM      Profile for Wowbangers the Infinitely Prolonged   Email Wowbangers the Infinitely Prolonged    Edit/Delete Post
Actualy, angreal don't store the actual weaves, or 'lock them inside' for that matter, they just give you extra umph when weaving one (a weave that is). So no, you can't make a weavesight check on it to learn weaves.

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Xythlord
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posted September 20, 2002 10:38 AM      Profile for Xythlord   Email Xythlord    Edit/Delete Post
First off you are absolutely right in your decisions. First off Sense residue would be absolutely worthless....There is no weave to sense as the casting of it was far from where it is now and furthermore it clearly states that "You cannot use weavesight on weaves released more than one month ago."

As for the Weavesight skill the very begining states "Use this skill to identify weaves as they are cast or that are held or tied off."

Now many would argue that the formulua for the weave is locked inside the item. Question do you use the optional rules by drothgary for Latent Maker? If you do then set a really high DC for a knowledge: Arcana check and don't tell them they have to have that skill.......and thats only if they have the Latent Maker feat.

If you do not use those rules, then just explain that like most of the sister in Salidar when Elayne tries to teach ter'angrealmaking. They do not have the necessary talents to make One Power items and thats that.

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LuciusT
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posted September 20, 2002 11:29 AM      Profile for LuciusT      Edit/Delete Post
As a counterpoint, if you have a ter'angreal that produces a weave, than they should be able to see the flows it produces and potenially duplicate them. However, since most if not all ter'angreal were made during the Age of Legends. Thus they were most likely made by men and women working together. Thus the weaves they produce use both halfs of the Source. Since your players can only see half the weave, they can't duplicate it. If they try... well... Bang!
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Xythlord
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posted September 20, 2002 11:44 AM      Profile for Xythlord   Email Xythlord    Edit/Delete Post
Or the ter'angrealjust produces the effect, not the weave. Either way I don't think that players should be able to learn a weave from watching a ter'angrealdo it. Remember that the Black sisters in Tanchico used the Balefire Rod, but could not cast that themselves.

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masterkorgin
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posted September 20, 2002 11:49 AM      Profile for masterkorgin      Edit/Delete Post
Wow! Thanks for the response. I appreciate it. It will help me greatly [Smile]
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