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Topic: Linking and
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KSB snow owl
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posted August 19, 2002 09:31 PM
When weave
slots are improved through Linking, can they be further
improved by the use of angreal and sa'angreal? I assume that
they can. The question that I really would like answered is,
if two or more members of a linked group had angreal, do all
the effective levels of the linking and all the angreal stack?
How does overchanneling within a link work? Is it simply one
overchannel attempt made by the channeler leading the Linked
group?
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Vazkor
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posted August 20, 2002 09:20 AM
Yes,
linking and *angreals stack. We've seen at least one ocurrence
of a circle where one of the channeler has a big sa'angreal.
I'd suggest to use only the most powerful *angreal for the
purpose of stacking, though (that is, if there are several
*angreals in the link).
Now, the (non-leading)
channelers in the link cannot draw more of the One Power that
they are able to. So they can't overchannel. I'm unsure as how
it applies to the leader.
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reischl
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posted August 20, 2002 09:24 AM
I'll try to
explain through example. If you want to cast a 9th level
weave, initially you must use a 9th level weave slot. If you
join a circle of 13 (+2 weave slots), that weave is now only a
7th level weave slot for you (although I'm not sure if its a
7th level for the entire group or only for the group leader).
If two people in that circle were to gain +2 angreals each
(total +6 weave slots [+2 linking, +4 angreal]), then that 9th
level weave is now only a 3rd level
weave.
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Vazkor
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posted August 20, 2002 09:28 AM
I don't
think that two angreals would stack. In fact, I think that
only the most powerful of the two counts, so in your example,
a fifth level slot would still be needed.
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Arr MiHardies
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posted August 20, 2002 01:19 PM
personally
i dont really like any of the linking rules as they are. they
simply do not take into account the power and capabilities of
all in the link. the linking rules in UtDB was a step in the
right direction, but not quite complete. Though im not sure
how to do it so it isnt completely
overpowering.
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DaHoffermn
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posted August 20, 2002 02:03 PM
I'd have to
assume you are correct. . .but. . .with that many people, I
would just say "yes, you succeeded. . .but roll a d20 and pray
you don't roll a one."
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Grayswandir_Blade Member Member
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posted August 20, 2002 02:16 PM
This has
been discussed to death on the OP board, if memory serves.
Click for the thread. There, they came up
with a linking system that IMO is better than the one in the
Netbook, because it was balance tested by about everyone in
the thread and they got all the kinks worked out. Take a look;
hey, MAB, you think (if you go for another netbook) you could
ask Compton if you can include it? It's a great system, and
works...
See page two for the revised rules; that's
more or less the final version.
The only problem with
it is that a circle of 13 4th level AS (the lowest AS level)
still can't overwhelmingly Shield a strong male channeler, as
per the novels. Of course, I think this is addressed in both
another thread and also in the netbook; I'm lazy, though, and
don't want to do the math. ![[NoNoNo]](Wizards_Com Boards Linking and Angreal stacking_fichiers/nonono.gif)
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posted August 20, 2002 03:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by
Grayswandir_Blade: The only problem with it is
that a circle of 13 4th level AS (the lowest AS level) still
can't overwhelmingly Shield a strong male channeler, as per
the novels.
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to have the Aes Sedai
PrC at less than 6th character level. You'd need at least 5
levels of initiate or wilder to meet the prereqs unless you
had a fair number of levels in other classes -- and using
feats and skill points gained by taking levels in
non-channeling classes on channeling feats/skills is not
something many people are going to
do.
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Vazkor
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posted August 21, 2002 06:22 AM
quote:
Originally posted by
Grayswandir_Blade: The only problem with it is
that a circle of 13 4th level AS (the lowest AS level) still
can't overwhelmingly Shield a strong male channeler, as per
the novels. Of course, I think this is addressed in both
another thread and also in the netbook; I'm lazy, though,
and don't want to do the math.
As a participant to this threads, I recall that
Compton's system actually passes this test well.
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posted August 21, 2002 09:20 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Vazkor Javhovor: As a
participant to this threads, I recall that Compton's system
actually passes this test well.
Oh? Well, my bad. I just thought I saw someone say it doesn't, that's
all.
In that case, the system's great!
quote:
Originally posted by drothgery: I'm pretty
sure it's impossible to have the Aes Sedai PrC at less than
6th character level. You'd need at least 5 levels of
initiate or wilder to meet the prereqs unless you had a fair
number of levels in other classes -- and using feats and
skill points gained by taking levels in non-channeling
classes on channeling feats/skills is not something many
people are going to do.
Gaaaah, ok, ok. Like I said, I didn't want to do the
math. I pulled that number from memory, I'm not
perfect...
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