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The Keeper
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posted March 26, 2003 07:57 PM      Profile for The Keeper      Edit/Delete Post
I am a very new GM and learning everything as I go. I don't think there is anything regarding "figuring out" a weave. For example, my characters are currently in a mirror world and not sure how they got there. The only way out is through a portal stone. Except they don't know how to use it. They have found someone how has seen it done but can't do it themselves. I remember in the books this is how Rand got out of the mirror world. What would be the rules?
I was thinking +15-20 on the weavesight to see if they can figure it out. Also this person is multiclassed in Initiate and Wilder so should be ok.

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posted March 26, 2003 08:46 PM      Profile for JosephKell   Email JosephKell    Edit/Delete Post
As GM you can do whatever you want (but if you abuse your players you may end up alone).

If you want them to get out by learning to use portal stone, then they will use that method.

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posted March 27, 2003 05:15 AM      Profile for Sharn_Penndroen   Email Sharn_Penndroen    Edit/Delete Post
I've always wondered why does it matter to a Wilder if a weave is Common, Rare, or Lost. I mean they aren't learning from someone else. Wouldn't they have the same likelihood of figuring out a Rare or Lost weave as they figuring out a Common weave. They would atleast have a chance to do so.

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posted March 27, 2003 05:56 AM      Profile for Fyatuk      Edit/Delete Post
Not necessarily. Weaves are all rare or lost because people could realize they could be done. Some of it is due to the difficulty. It's been a long time since there were people strong enough for certain weaves. I would give wilders a weavesight check with common weaves having a DC equal to learning a weave from someone's casting a level you can cast (don't have my book, don't remember the number). Rare would have a +10 and Lost a +20 to the DC. (numbers may need to be fudged, again not sure without the book).

Remember, its hard to get to the point where you can figure those out, but when you do it comes quickly. Once the DC's are no longer a problem, they are good to go.

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Freya
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posted March 27, 2003 07:18 AM      Profile for Freya      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by The Keeper:
The only way out is through a portal stone. Except they don't know how to use it. They have found someone how has seen it done but can't do it themselves.

This reminds me of the scene where Sorilea shows Cadsuane how to weave a Traveling portal. Sorilea doesn't have the strength enough to weave it correctly, but is still able to form the weave enough for Cadsuane to learn it by weavesight.

If the one who saw it can at least form the weave, it could then be possible for the channeler to learn it. Just add a small modifier for not seeing the weave formed to completion.

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posted March 27, 2003 07:20 AM      Profile for Freya      Edit/Delete Post
Doh, double post.

[ March 27, 2003, 07:21 AM: Message edited by: Freya ]

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posted March 27, 2003 03:25 PM      Profile for skyman      Edit/Delete Post
I occasionally let my players "figure out" weaves on the fly. I don't do this with combat or healing weaves (they should learn them themselves). But weaves like use portal stone that advance the story and aren't overbalancing I don't have a problem with. If they NEED to learn it to advance the story, make a show of having them roll weavesight or some other check, and let them learn automatically. Of course, its important to DM with whatever style you think fits. [Smile]

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posted March 27, 2003 03:51 PM      Profile for Steve Russell   Email Steve Russell    Edit/Delete Post
there is a mechanic for this in the book its called an exceptional success. If the weave is rare or Lost someone has to teach them. If some one is teaching them but unable to show them the weave (a women teaching a man is dangerous look at book 4, a stilled or burned out channeler) it should require an exceptional success +10 to the DC.

Just my opinion I could be wrong (but im probably not)

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