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Dortamur
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posted January 08, 2003 05:45 PM
Players of
my campaign, please read no further!
Has anyone used wards much in their
campaign? I haven't seen much discussion on them
here.
Here's a few questions:
In the RPG Book,
most/all the wards are described as having a visible effect -
although now re-reading the descriptions: "... appears as a
dome ..." could be taken as "... appears as a dome to
channelers of the same gender able to do weavesight
..."
Ward against People stops people outside the dome
from entering, yet everyone inside the dome can pass back and
forth through it. Is this weave featured in the novels at all?
I can't remember where. Do you think it would be plausible for
a variant to allow everyone to pass through who is OUTSIDE the
ward? ie; use it to imprison people?
Where is the Ward
against the One Power used in the novels? It seems quite
powerful.
The People ward says "The area of this weave
cannot overlap, contain or be contained within another warding
weave". Why not? Ok, "overlap" I can understand, but if it's
effectively a barrier, why can there not be another ward
within it, or outside of it, if they don't overlap? The Power
Ward contains no such disclaimer...
I'd be interested
in any thoughts people have on these issues, be they pro-RPG
rulings or not. I'm toying with the idea of using wards quite
a bit in my next session, but one of my primary concepts will
only work with some alterations to the RPG rules. I don't mind
breaking those rules, but I prefer any breakings to be done
with good reason, and not go further against the
Books.
What I want to do is use a People Ward just
outside a Power Ward, to hold prisoner a group of channelers.
The Channelers inside won't be able to dispel the People ward,
as the Power ward would block it.
Further to this, where does "channeling"
originate? ie; which part of the body? Is it a whole body
thing? Head? Heart? Finger? ie; if in the prison I described,
there was a small gap between the two wards, would a channeler
be able to stick a finger through the Power ward to then slice
the People ward? What effect would channeling have if the
channeler was standing across the border of the Power ward?
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JosephKell
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posted January 08, 2003 10:56 PM
Actually
you make a good point, my male channeler did that to a Black
Ajah after she shielded his battery *cough* i mean female
channeling companion... The beauty of Ward Against the One
Power is that it is an effective barrier against the one
power, You can fire arrows through it, throw rocks through,
Arms of Air boulders down hills through it... And while they
can walk through the Ward, doing so allows someone who delayed
their action to fireball the *bleep* out of them!
Think
of Ward Against One Power as the lower level Channeler's
Shield.
I just started reading CoT yesterday, and I got
some insane ideas for my next male channeler...
(Shielded/Severed female channeler pimping! He he he he he he
he he)
Kell: You are crazy Joseph.
Joseph: I know.
<Ackward
silence>
<Followed...>
<By...>
<Long
pause>
Kell: So who is the first wench?!
Joseph: Thought you would never ask!
Jonathan: I really need to keep them under
control!
P.S. Channeling originates from the middle of
a person to the best of my knowledge. And remember the
distance between the Wards can be so small as no being could
really say where one started and another ended. Look at the
Gateways! Those things are infinitely thin, talk about a
"close" shave. He he he he he he he.
Joseph and Kell:...
Joseph: And we need to be
restrained?
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Dortamur
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posted January 09, 2003 04:09 AM
Gateway is
different though - that is one weave, whereas doing two wards,
one within another (assuming ignoring the "no nested wards"
bit in the RPG book), is two separate weaves, positioned near
each other. I think it would be quite hard to position them
with minimal gap between them...
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JosephKell
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posted January 11, 2003 01:30 PM
Question:
Does Ward Against the One Power block balefire? Or does
Balefire cut through it and in effect be a crazy powerful Ward
Bore?
Joseph: Hey, Aes Sedai, hold still while i balefire
that shield off of you! he he he he..
Kell: Jonathan, he is scaring me.
Jonathan: Me too Kell, me too...
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Shadowkiller
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posted January 11, 2003 02:45 PM
1. I have
always thought about the possibility of inverting the ward,
not the weave, the ward so basically the inside faces out and
the outside faces in. I would allow my players to do that if
they wished.
2. I decided for my game that Ward against
the One Power would block balefire. Balefire has only ever
effected creatures and objects. The One Power is which of
these two? Neither is what I say.
We have never seen
Balefire touch any weaves(can't remember every detail, correct
me if Im wrong and site example please) so we dont know how it
will effect them, well except for when Rands Balefire touched
the Wanderers Balefire, but we can never be sure about that
cause they both touched Mashadar at the same time and that
kind of creates a paradox since one balefiring Mashadar into
the past would make the other not need to so he wouldnt but
both touched at the same time so which winks out, if both then
Mashadar didnt disappear and then they both would have
balefired...etc. ![[Angel]](Wizards_Com Boards Using Wards_fichiers/angel.gif)
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Dortamur
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posted January 11, 2003 06:06 PM
Thanks for
the ideas.
I do see the Power Ward similar to Matt's
medallion. Perhaps it's similar technology to what the
Gholam's use too.
I'm a little afraid of using it, as
one of our channelers has l33t Weavesight, and the down-side
of using cool channeling combos and ideas is when your players
use them back at you later.
So, how do you break the Power Ward? If you
can "slice" it (based on Books, and a weave in UtDB), then
that'd be too easy. If you can't "slice" it, then it could be
quite hard.
Perhaps, taking the parallels with Shield
from the OP, and Book info, you could try & brute-force
against knots in the weave (if it is tied off). Hmmm.
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Psyrunner
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posted January 11, 2003 09:59 PM
We were
running a high level campaign recently and the subject of
Balefire vs Wards (Master and Power wards were the one) came
up. The way we handled it was that the Balefire was blocked,
but destroyed the ward in the progress (it was essentially
taken out of the pattern). I don't think that would be the
case though with any of the others as Balefire isn't affected
by wards against sight, sound or shadowspawn.
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Shadowkiller
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posted January 12, 2003 03:57 AM
I said for
my game, cause I make these rulings all the time, that slice
would affect Power Ward because slice is aimed at the weave
itself and power ward only blocks weaves from entering, not
weaves that are centered on
it.
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