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Ma'caldazar
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posted March 13, 2003 03:06 AM
what is the
prize of a damane. when egeain capture bayle domans ship she
tell he that she own the damane and she is not even of the
blood a seanechan noble probably would want to and be able to
buy a damane. and by the way what pay would a suldam
charge.
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Chel'adar
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posted March 13, 2003 07:19 AM
About twice
the price of a reasonable ship??? Expensive, that's for sure.
(wasn't this asked before?? I remember reading a topic of
someone asking the same)
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Luna_Luciferi
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posted March 13, 2003 08:03 AM
hey...
are you some kind of Seanchan freak? That reminds me of
a player when we were playing the swedish version of Dungeons
and Dragons... the GM got a note who said " I wanna meet
three skeletons"... the GM looked att the guy and shaked his
head... then he got another note "Please!!"... We kicked that
guy out of our session... thats just bad roleplaying. You
shouldn't have a Damane and Suldam when you're a player... you
shouldn't actually get yourself a raken either... that's the
GM's toys... remember, you're the one playing in the GM's
garden... not reverse!
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Steve Russell
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posted March 13, 2003 09:29 AM
why not a
seanchan campaign.
You could play a Sul'dam with a
damane, a noble, a member of the fist of heaven or deathwatch
ogier, a male channeler on the run (forget gentling they kill
you), a court bard, a so'jhin shadow, A handler of any exotic,
senchan barbarian (CoT), the possiblities are
endless
Gary Gygax told me that if you limit yourself
as a GM you are robbing you player of an experience.
I
could see it. the seanchan are not allied with the dark
one
Hell i would run a darkfriends campaign just for
the fun.
To the Point: remember Sul'dam services are
not costly follow the rules for Profession becasue there are
more sul'dam than Damane
Damne are extremly rare and
owned sul'dam are rarer still, the only Blood I have seen with
Sul'dam are Tuon, Turok and Tuon and they are of the High
Blood the cost should be high. Also remember those who have
Damane are closely watched by the Seekers of
Truth.
Plus it seams these things go for auction (Bayle
Domon is the only time you actually learn about the buying and
selling of property). So the price could rise very high. You
as the GM would get to set the price to how bad or even if the
PC can afford it.
personly I would have the PC visit
an auction and have him lose because it is more then he can
afford that way he has a motivation to earn a certin amount of
money. (this could be an adventure of its
own)
P.S. Personly I have a problem with a PC
wanting to indulge in slave trade. I know to the Seanchan it
is Socialy acceptable. I consider it evil and would constatly
be bringing up moral challanges to the character (such as him
finding out the Sul'dam can learn to
channel)
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Ma'caldazar
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posted March 14, 2003 04:08 AM
thanks i
think i get it now
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Sophiathegreen
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posted April 14, 2003 02:59 AM
Slavely
have than very long history on this planet and even the Pope
in the middle age own some slaves. The Islamic state have
slave soilder fight for then and their where treat very well.
Some slave have more status and power and position in
socierty than free people did. In Islamic state than slave can
buy his freedom or be given his freedom by his master. Only in
the American south was the worst form of slavely practive.
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Moon-Hawk
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posted April 14, 2003 05:39 AM
This is an
excellent point. No Seanchan slaves are treated in the same
way as (early) american slaves. Most da'covale (those who are
property) are treated much better than this by the Seanchan.
For the most part, the Seanchan don't mistreat their slaves.
There are several mentions of how the servant of a noble
(so'jhin) can be a much more prestigious position than a
common person for the seanchan. Remember also that the
deathwatch guard (minus the ogier members) are considered
slaves, as are the Seekers for Truth. Damane, on the other
hand, are treated exactly the same as one would treat an
intelligent, dangerous animal. From THAT perspective, they are
not mistreated; they are treated very well, for animals. They
are not, of course, animals, and so treating them as such is a
horrible abuse. So slavery is a very broad term that can
apply to a range of situations, and I think the Seanchan
pretty much cover that range, from damane to so'jhin. And
remember kids, if the pope says it's okay, it must be true.
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Sophiathegreen
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posted April 14, 2003 06:17 AM
The Pope in
questron was in the marketplace when he notice two slaves
being sold who look so much like angles that he decide to bid
on then as one of the highter bid was than man known to
mistreat slave badly. These slave was from a place called by
then England and the Pope took it to mean Angloland. The Pope
free then and have then educrate in the Christian Faith even
thought they where orginate pagon and have then sent back as
Misstoray to spead Christian.
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Steve Russell
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posted April 14, 2003 09:47 PM
the real
point is regarless of your status you are property and can be
treated badly, killed, tortured, and abused. (Tuon mentions
men who like to bed damane)
Regardless of your social
status a slave is still subjegated to the will of its master.
The Subjegation of the free will of human life is evil
in my game. That is why compulsion is look upon so harshly.
You are free to do what you will. For you are not a
slave.
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shadow-dancer
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posted April 15, 2003 04:49 AM
The auction
idea is a good fun one
One member of my party is dead set on freeing damane
wherever he can. This is to the extent that I can see the two
aiel scouts squirming when they have to tell him they have
spotted another Seanchan patrol with damane in it. His eyes
light up 'oh there is only 20 of them, we can have them' and
then has to be shouted down by the party! I think to date they
have freed about 5 or 6 (mostly not Seanchan ones). They are
so nice, they pack them off to the tower with an escort and
money to pay their way
They went to Falme, and spotted an auction, and as
they have been trading their way accross the world, he did
spend some time trying to work out whether he could buy some
damane, but as I set the prices starting at about 100 gold, he
had to ditch that idea.....I think everyone else would have
been very upset if he had spent their profit!.. He is still
planning how he can raise an army and free all the damane!
It'll be amusing to see how he works that one out! ![[Big Grin]](Wizards_Com Boards damane_fichiers/biggrin.gif)
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