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Sophiathegreen
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posted April 24, 2003 05:28 PM      Profile for Sophiathegreen   Email Sophiathegreen    Edit/Delete Post
In the book it seem the Aes Sedai drink mostly tea an very little alchol is very easy to explain. Would you
want than Aes Sedai get drunk in your inn or bar and start casting weave's all over the place like call lighting, fireball's and etc's. Other female channeler also drink tea and avoid alchol for the same reason.

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posted April 24, 2003 05:52 PM      Profile for Sharn_Penndroen   Email Sharn_Penndroen    Edit/Delete Post
Yeah, I suppose that besides it just not being very "lady like" to get plastered, you wouldn't want to impare the judgement of any channeler. Even if the oaths bind her against outright killing folks for no reason, she could easily cause deaths of many accidentally, including her own.

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posted April 24, 2003 08:52 PM      Profile for Generality   Email Generality    Edit/Delete Post
It could also be the fact that a good third or so of the population is quite willing to club you over the head the instant you look off your guard. A drunk Aes Sedai is a target, too. But I suspect that even when drunk, the oaths would hold, and they are as unable to kill people indirectly as directly.

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posted April 24, 2003 09:06 PM      Profile for GMKeth   Email GMKeth    Edit/Delete Post
And maybe, just maybe......the just like tea.

Or Maybe their British.

ROFLMAO. Giggle. Sorry.
(I'm a confirmed tea drinker, so of course seeing a post about tea...i had to reply. lol)

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posted April 24, 2003 09:12 PM      Profile for GMKeth   Email GMKeth    Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Generality:
But I suspect that even when drunk, the oaths would hold, and they are as unable to kill people indirectly as directly.

Anyway. I actually agree with this. We have seen how the Three Oaths work when it comes to lying. They simply can't lie. It's not like they (The Aes Sedai simply Promised not to lie, they are Unable to.
I agree and believe that even in an inebriated state that the oaths would prevent them from lying, the weapon forging thing, and even killing with the power (unless of course, it's part of the "This is ok if this" part.).

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posted April 25, 2003 12:03 AM      Profile for Sophiathegreen   Email Sophiathegreen    Edit/Delete Post
But why test it to see it the oath will hold. There are cases of people drinking too much murdering someone while under alchol effect and saying they didnot murder someone when sober. Alchol I believe it you drink enought mighten weaken the three oak enought to may-be cause than channeler to lose control. And what about other channeler like Initiate, Wisdom, Wilder and other one they arenot under the oath.
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posted April 25, 2003 02:36 AM      Profile for Luna_Luciferi   Email Luna_Luciferi    Edit/Delete Post
Well, actually if you drink too much alcohol or do some narcotics, you can start to see things that aren't there - like a Trolloc, or the Dark one himself, or the forsaken... well... there's no end of the possibilities... And the Aes Sedai will be 100% sure what she attacked was something real...

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posted April 25, 2003 05:25 AM      Profile for Sharn_Penndroen   Email Sharn_Penndroen    Edit/Delete Post
[ROFL] [ROFL] [ROFL]
Can you imagine an aes sedai of the Red ajah waking up next to some big ugly guy and realizes that he has also just bonded him to be her Warder. Brings new meaning to the consequences of a one night stand.
[ROFL] [ROFL] [ROFL]

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posted April 25, 2003 06:20 AM      Profile for The Great Gray Skwid   Email The Great Gray Skwid    Edit/Delete Post
Isn't Elayne more or less rendered unable to channel during her "Jush ooone leeetle glass o' wine" incident? She was obviously still able to channel on her second-hand drunk from Birgitte, but that's different...

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posted April 25, 2003 06:50 AM      Profile for Freya      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by The Great Gray Skwid:
Isn't Elayne more or less rendered unable to channel during her "Jush ooone leeetle glass o' wine" incident? She was obviously still able to channel on her second-hand drunk from Birgitte, but that's different...

I agree with Skwid here. Drinking generally scatters a person's thoughts, making it hard to think straight much less concentrate enough to get a weave off. Channeling takes concentration and control, drinking usually removes both of those from a person. Sure, a drunk Aes Sedai could probably physically attack a person with their fists or a dagger and sidetrack the Oaths entirely (as they only pertain to the One Power). See the chapter where Verin was readying to poison Cadsuane...of course, Verin has her own mysteries.

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posted April 25, 2003 10:32 AM      Profile for Chel'adar Tamero   Email Chel'adar Tamero    Edit/Delete Post
Lol, i dont see how alcohol affects oaks [Razz] srry, couldnt resist.....I would like to have seen the stuff that happened after the 101 channelers sealed the dark one and had their celebration party.....perhaps that caused the breaking [Razz] . RAND!!!!!!! PLEASE DONT TAKE ANOTHER MUG OF THAT OOSQUAI!!!!! U KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME PEOPLE WITH UR ABILITY DID THAT!!!!! Roflmao [Razz]

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posted April 25, 2003 11:16 AM      Profile for Whitewinds   Email Whitewinds    Edit/Delete Post
Perhaps somebody once experimented with the channeling equivalent of drunken fighting and the results scared the White Tower sober? [Smile]
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posted April 25, 2003 02:53 PM      Profile for Sophiathegreen   Email Sophiathegreen    Edit/Delete Post
By drinking I also do not mean than person who get drunk once. I know some drunk who get drunk every night are able to drive they car home or to than other bar an that also take concentration and mental ability. I know this as my father was than alcholal so I know this first hand. I want GM than D&D game where the hight-level wizard have to much to drink in alchol that he started to cast fireball, distintegrate at ranson. The player of those character where haveing they character's drink to much alcohol all the time. After that the character where careful about how much they drink, the wizard only drank tea afterword.
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posted April 25, 2003 04:59 PM      Profile for Sharn_Penndroen   Email Sharn_Penndroen    Edit/Delete Post
That was a good way to role play the incident. Rather than saying, "Your character can't just drink like that all the time," you made him face the consequences of his actions. I think that was a good way to handle it. At least he had enough sense to learn from it and quit the bottle.

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posted April 26, 2003 04:53 PM      Profile for Dortamur      Edit/Delete Post
Wouldn't the problem with Aes Sedai getting drunk that they'd tell the truth? [Big Grin]

It takes a lot of continual concentration to keep all those secrets hidden...

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posted April 26, 2003 06:14 PM      Profile for Sophiathegreen   Email Sophiathegreen    Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Dortamur:
Wouldn't the problem with Aes Sedai getting drunk that they'd tell the truth? [Big Grin]

It takes a lot of continual concentration to keep all those secrets hidden...

Not really I would be more afraid of they build up sexual tension being release all at once on a man will the man live thought it hard to tell about out of control channeler. Their are one big tightly wound
up ball of sexual feeling ready to blow up.

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