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Daikatana
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posted December 06, 2002 03:10 PM      Profile for Daikatana      Edit/Delete Post
Can mat's medallion det detect weavs that are tied of?

One of my players and I got into an argument abut that. [Mad]
He thought it did but I would say it does not, and I hoped maybe you guys could settle the argument.

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posted December 06, 2002 06:11 PM      Profile for dscrank      Edit/Delete Post
I don't think it's really clear, either way. Whatever the GM says goes.

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posted December 07, 2002 09:35 AM      Profile for Heron_Marked_Blade      Edit/Delete Post
I don't think it'd detect tied off weaves. In every instance of the medallion going cold in the books, it's because someone's channeling nearbye. Someone would have to be in contact with the One Power for the medallion to alarm him. From my point of view, at any rate.

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posted December 09, 2002 07:34 AM      Profile for aleshandre   Email aleshandre    Edit/Delete Post
More specifically, the Medallion only absorbs weaves of sadair cast at the wearer, and as it does so, grows cold. Following this to its logical conclusion, the Medalion would only grow cold if Mat passes through the tied off weave, if at all. It cannot detect the weaves. Mat has learned to identify that when the Medalion grows cold (aside from exposure to cold air), it means that a woman is channeling at him.
Just had another thought...
If Mat walks through a weave that has been tied off, the medalion may absorb the weaves, undoing whatever the weave had created. for example: if an AS wove a ward, and Mat walked through it (even if it was a ward specifically against him), the ward would be deactivated as if it had not been woven in the first place... that is ofcourse if it can absorb tied off weaves. I'd leave that decision up to the GM until RJ clarifies the point. [Big Grin]

[ December 09, 2002, 07:39 AM: Message edited by: aleshandre ]

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posted December 09, 2002 07:36 AM      Profile for The Great Gray Skwid   Email The Great Gray Skwid    Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by aleshandre:
More specifically, the Medallion only absorbs weaves of sadair cast at the wearer, and as it does so, grows cold.

Or saidin.

See Gar, Aran'.

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posted December 09, 2002 07:46 AM      Profile for aleshandre   Email aleshandre    Edit/Delete Post
We don't have a clear picture as to whether it will absorb saidin, because Mat was "killed" by Ravin's lighning bolts. RJ hasn't specified whether the lightning is directly a result of the weaves, or a result of manipulating the weather, though I would lean toward it being a direct result of the weaves, because the lightning tends to come from a clear sky or when there is no evidence of a storm. If this is the case, then it has been proven that It doesn't protect him from saidin.

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posted December 09, 2002 08:18 AM      Profile for Lord Schpungus      Edit/Delete Post
If you read the WOT FAQ (www.linuxmafia.com/jordan) it cites nook evidence that it blocks both saidin and saidar, as well as a quote from RJ from a book signing on the subject. Long story short, it blocks both.
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posted December 09, 2002 08:29 AM      Profile for aleshandre   Email aleshandre    Edit/Delete Post
Thank you for the clarification. [Big Grin]

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posted December 09, 2002 09:17 AM      Profile for Heron_Marked_Blade      Edit/Delete Post
You can find discussion of a related topic at Questions About Gholams.

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posted December 18, 2002 06:58 PM      Profile for Dwayne Trawick   Email Dwayne Trawick    Edit/Delete Post
I would say no, not because of the question of its powers, but in how it works. If a weave is already tied off, its subject has already been determined and must not be Mat. The medallion only works to block weaves CAST DIRECTLY ON MAT so if its tied off, it wasn't casted AT Mat, an therefore won't be blocked.
I'm not entirely sure how this goes in the rules, but that's how it is in the book.

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posted December 18, 2002 07:17 PM      Profile for finnmckool   Email finnmckool    Edit/Delete Post
yeah I wouldn't let him do it either. It would only alert him to weaves he walked through. Mat's medallion doesn't detect weaves. Only weaves that hit him.
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posted December 18, 2002 08:20 PM      Profile for dscrank      Edit/Delete Post
That's not quite true. It grows cold whenever someone channels nearby (see the fight with the gholam, or rather, just before). I think that's covered in the rulebook.

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