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Topic: How do you
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Bard
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posted December 03, 2002 03:23 PM
Greetings
all;
I am new on this board. I have a doubt about
the rules on ter'angreal (and angreal), I have searched on the
rulebook and on the faqs and found nothing (maybe I rolled 1
on the search check !). How do you detect one and how to
identify its powers ? I suppose you can use Weavesight to
detect if an item is an ter'angreal (or angreal). But can you
also use it to discover how to use one ? In the books it
seens to be really difficult and some times dangerous to
identify one.
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Shadowkiller
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posted December 03, 2002 04:03 PM
Its all
based upon GM rules. Some possibilities are Knowledge
(Arcana), Weavesight, and straight up random testing. Failing
at any of these can give negative consequences. But again, its
up to the GM.
For those GMs out there who have done
it, what method did you use?
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Xythlord
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posted December 03, 2002 04:18 PM
These are
the rules that I pretty much have for my game for sensing
items that use the One Power.
When holding the One
Power, you are able to feel a resonance within the item with a
successful Search check DC 15. You can detect an item that
uses the One Power that you do not touch on a successful
Search check against a DC 25, as long as it is within 30 ft.
You may successfully sense one item per day, each use after
the first suffers a cumulative +2 to the difficulty check, as
overuse blurs your sensitivity. A channeler may only sense a
Ter’angreal or an angreal / Sa’angreal that he or she may use.
Use of this ability is a standard action.
As for
figuring out what they do, the channelers have three
options.
1) they can experiment, by trying to do stuff
and just channeling weaves into the item, but their may be
negative consequences as Shadowkiller pointed out.
2)
using the Gleeman's lore ability or a sufficiently high
knowledge skill check (Ter'angreal, or maybe Aes Sedai) to see
if they could find anything written down about that particular
peice.
3) if they have the Latent Maker feat, then they
may try a KS: Arcana skill check to figure out what it might
be for, but for others...they just don't have the knack to
read the making of the
item.
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Harkael
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posted December 03, 2002 05:26 PM
If you want
to stick closely with the setting then im afraid you'll have
very little luck figuring out what a ter'angreal does much
less finding and identifying it for what it is. All the
ter'angreal that are used in the books had already been known
to be ter'angreal. However since the stone of tear had been
packed with angreal and ter'angreal that were to be hidden
away (i think) from the world, it means that you dont
necessarily need to be able to channel to identify them. The
only feasable way to do so without getting too "dnd-ish" Is to
use the above suggestion to use knowledge checks (ter'angreal,
white tower history) something like that. But some shouldnt be
too difficult to figure out ex: walk through an archway, bowl
covered in clouds and whatnot changes weather) Angreal and
Sa'angreal should be much simpler, if a channeling character
thinks some random trinket is one, then they could just try
embracing the source while holding it, Im pretty sure they
would be able to tell. My two
cents
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Dayana Sedai
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posted December 03, 2002 10:14 PM
An obvious
fact of ter'angreal is they are nearly indestructable (most of
them atleast). They are often made of un-identifiable
substances. To identify what one DOES however takes skill.
Egwene (from the books . . . one time in band camp) seems to
have a talent in identifying (and re-creating) these objects.
I would suggest that this is a lost feat: latent Ter'angreal
Former or something and then a major feat: Ter'angreal former.
The latent probably would give you a talent in recognizing
ter'angreal though. Just a thought. I know the netbook or some
online sources offer different solutions to this, but I think
they were too DnD for me.
You could also distinguish
between ter'angreal that used power (weave slots) vs. those
that just functioned: the ones that used power would be easier
to identify (only for channelers mind you though) because they
would "call" for what activated them. The others probably
would be un-identfiable unless you saw them working and you
could do the same thing yourself without a ter'angreal like
Egwene's dream ring: she could identify and replicate it
because she had the dreaming ability. It would also explain
how Corianne Sedai (the last dreamer in the tower before
Egwene) knew which ter'angreal to study.
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Moridin00
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posted December 04, 2002 04:18 AM
Yeah, the
last woman who put a lot of effort into identifying
ter'angreal was the only one in hundreds of years to do
so.
She also stilled herself, despite her years of
experience, in the end.
It is difficult and dangerous
to ID ter'angreals.
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Blackdraman
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posted December 04, 2002 06:19 AM
Sorry
Dayana Sedai, no offence ment. But I have to make a
correction.
quote:
Egwene (from the books . . . one time in band camp)
seems to have a talent in identifying (and re-creating)
these objects.
quote:
...Egwene's dream ring: she could identify and
replicate it because she had the dreaming ability...
Egwene is not the one that made ter'angreals, Elayne
is.
Elayne used the Dream Ring as a base to copy
from.
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posted December 04, 2002 08:35 AM
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Bard
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posted December 04, 2002 01:42 PM
Thank you
all for the help. I think I will use Xythlord ideas.
1) To sense if an item is ter'angreal or angreal the
channeler must sense the resonance of the One Power in the
item on an Search check. Maybe it can be used the sense
channeler ability too. Male channelers must be casting a weave
to sense (as Taim did), while female need only to be
embrancing the source. 2) To discover how to use an
ter'angreal an Known. Arcana check or similar lore to have
heard or read something of the item. And experiment on the
item (it will be funny ). Elayne ability seens to require a feat (I will
check the Maker's)
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