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grolm
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posted January 19, 2003 12:29 AM
On page
534, first paragraph, Merise says "Damer, he wanted to try his
Healing on her, but Daigian refused. She may never have had a
Warder before, but she knows that the grieving over a dead
Warder is part of remembering him. I am surprised that Corele
would consider allowing it." Also thanks for pointing out
that the other is
trace.
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wierdbob
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posted January 20, 2003 04:03 PM
Does anyone
else think it might have been Nichola who betrayed Egwene? She
disappeared just before the plan was about to go ahead, she
was part of the Cuelendar training (and not doing very well if
memory serves), and the amount of sneaking about her and
Arienia do together she could have quite easily overheard some
of the sisters from the hall discussing the
plan.
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finnmckool
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posted January 20, 2003 04:19 PM
Ummmmm the
Capt. of the DeathWatch and the Seeker (or whatever the
SeanChean call them) who discussed finding her. The same ones
who brought up the poor unfortunate moron girl trying to
extole money in Tuon's name at some noble's house. The world
doesn't know she's missing, but she IS missing, as is her
"assistant." And the uppers of the Sean Chean on this side of
the Arryth know it.
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Andy Palmer
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posted January 20, 2003 04:58 PM
One thing I
noticed in the book:
It appears that the cleansing of
Saidin has done little to remove the madness from male
channelers (based on Rand still talking to himself..).
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finnmckool
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posted January 20, 2003 06:36 PM
Andy...unless that's not him being mad, BUT some
horrible form of "Old Blood." What I mean is, that may
actually BE Lews Therin's ghost in his head. Perhaps it's part
of being the Dragon Reborn?
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JosephKell
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posted January 20, 2003 06:49 PM
Actually
Rand says at one point that although the Taint on Saidin is
gone, the Taint that is rubbed off on men (their Madness)
isn't gone, they won't get any madder, but it is still apart
of them.
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finnmckool
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posted January 20, 2003 06:55 PM
About where
in the book is that, because I missed that line? (I need to go
back and find it!)
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JosephKell
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posted January 20, 2003 07:13 PM
Rand was in
like two chapters of the book! It was in the part where
he was the only male channeler around (min was with him) and
he reachs for Saidin and Lewis nearly grabs it too because he
forgot to fight him with Saidin being clean and all. Then he
mentioned that while Saidin was clean now, the Taint already
aquired isn't gone.
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Jak Shadow
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posted January 21, 2003 02:25 AM
People
might like to check out THIS report of one of the recent Jordan book
signings.
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posted January 23, 2003 05:27 AM
Trace can
be used on Shadowspawn? Weird... And on tracks as well? Or
was it something like Sense
Shadowspawn?
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Lord Schpungus
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posted January 23, 2003 10:46 PM
The way
Trace is set up in the RPG, it's more like 'here's a gift, now
I can sense where you are' than 'this is what a darkhound pack
smells like.' Neither is it like Sense Shadowspawn, as in the
RPG that's sensing live shadowspawn nearby, rather than
sensing the differences between packs of darkhounds who are
gone and have left footprints.
I think a Detect
Resonance weave would work well for both the Darkhound weave
and the detection of (the prior use of and relative amount of)
saidin by females.
Now for a few questions of my
own:
1) The idea of Darkhounds as twisted wolves is
cool. I especially like the idea of a Shadowbrother PrC. Any
ideas? Also, do Darkhounds traverse Tel'aran'rhiod like
wolves?
2) So there are ghosts now? How do we deal with
them in the RPG?
3) Why isn't there any conclusions on
any threads ni this book? No Faile, no DotNM marriage, no
unified Tower, no Elayne coronation, no Nynaeve bonding Lan,
no Taim getting his comeuppance, no death of Slayer and rescue
of Moirane from the *finn... The hour is growing short, RJ.
The Wild Hunt runs again, and the dead walk the land. These
things must happen before you end the series, Mr. Jordan. I
will be displeased if these things do not happen. However, I
have faith in you that they will be included.
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aleshandre
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posted January 24, 2003 03:54 AM
Fear not
LS, trust in the Creator (RJ to his fans), and RAFO. ![[ROFL]](Wizards_Com Boards Crossroads MAJOR SPOILERS disscussion (2)_fichiers/roflmao.gif)
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Xythlord
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posted January 24, 2003 05:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Schpungus: The
way Trace is set up in the RPG, it's more like 'here's a
gift, now I can sense where you are' than 'this is what a
darkhound pack smells like.' Neither is it like Sense
Shadowspawn, as in the RPG that's sensing live shadowspawn
nearby, rather than sensing the differences between packs of
darkhounds who are gone and have left
footprints.
According to the RPG, the Trace weave allows you to
"Also, if the target has recently been at your location
(within 25 ft. of where you cast the weave) within the time
allowed by the casting level, you sense that he has been there
and roughly how long ago. If the target was experiencing
intense emotions at the time he was at your location, you can
sense him within double th elisted time for you casting
level"
You could probably rule that almost all
shadowspawn have intense
emotion.
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LuciusT
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posted January 24, 2003 07:04 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Xythlord: According
to the RPG, the Trace weave allows you to "Also, if the
target has recently been at your location (within 25 ft. of
where you cast the weave) within the time allowed by the
casting level, you sense that he has been there and roughly
how long ago. If the target was experiencing intense
emotions at the time he was at your location, you can sense
him within double th elisted time for you casting
level"
You could probably rule that almost all
shadowspawn have intense emotion.
I don't have the rulebook with me, but I seem to recall
that you actually need to know the target.
As I
understand it Trace isn't a matter of "has someone been here
within the last X hours" it's a matter of "has
specific-person-X been here within the last X hours."
Trace is the weave Moiraine used to keep tabs on the 3
boys when they left the Two Rivers in Eye of the World. It is
quite different, IMO, from whatever weave was used in
Crossroads of Twilight on the Darkhound's tracks.
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LuciusT
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posted January 24, 2003 07:07 AM
I've just
finished Crossroads. I'd like to say I'm very disappointed,
but unfortunately that would mean I was actually expecting
something better. I wasn't. 700 pages in which nothing happens
was about what I expect. I had hoped something would happen,
but I didn't really expect it to.
Is anyone else
reading these books mostly as research of their RPGs and not
so much for the value of the story itself?
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aleshandre
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posted January 24, 2003 09:45 AM
Not me. I
love the story and even though it takes a year or two to get
to the next book, I find it very exciting...even when the
action is suspended for long periods of time. ![[Love]](Wizards_Com Boards Crossroads MAJOR SPOILERS disscussion (2)_fichiers/love.gif)
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Eosin_the_Red
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posted January 24, 2003 12:11 PM
quote:
Is
anyone else reading these books mostly as research of their
RPGs and not so much for the value of the story itself?
"It is like a bad marriage. Going throught the motions
but the passion is gone."
PS - I need to send you the
map - I am about as done as I am going to get on
it.
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LuciusT
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posted January 24, 2003 12:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Eosin_the_Red: "It is
like a bad marriage. Going throught the motions but the
passion is gone."
quote:
Originally posted by Eosin_the_Red: "PS -
I need to send you the map - I am about as done as I am
going to get on it.
Do you need my email address again?
Guess I
should finish writing up the stuff I owe you in exchange. I
got a little sidetracked.
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Nadiel
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posted January 25, 2003 07:05 AM
a): Isn't
Delanna Grey Ajah?? b):There is another weave that hasn't
been mentioned before: A weave that creates a kind of stasis
field around the casks of food that the rebel tower has. The
usage of this weave should have prevented the amound of
weevils in the food.... that it didn't work suggested to some
of the Aes Sedai that Saidar is failing somehow... anyone else
thought about this?
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aleshandre
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posted January 25, 2003 09:45 AM
It's called
a Keeping. It maintains the object(s) within in a ward against
time, which does not wear off. A stasis box is likely a
Ter-angreal that makes a keeping inside. ![[Wink]](Wizards_Com Boards Crossroads MAJOR SPOILERS disscussion (2)_fichiers/wink.gif)
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posted January 25, 2003 11:09 AM
Didn't we
see the Keeping weave before? I seem to remember Elaida doing
something of the sort to her flowers to keep them in
bloom....and not just using the Power to help them grow like
she did in Caemlyn.
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posted January 25, 2003 11:11 AM
Didn't we
see the Keeping weave before? I seem to remember Elaida doing
something of the sort to her flowers to keep them in
bloom....and not just using the Power to help them grow like
she did in Caemlyn.
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JosephKell
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posted January 25, 2003 11:43 AM
What about
what Rand did in Winter's Heart? He left a perma-blossome for
Elayne after they
boinged.
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Lord Schpungus
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posted January 25, 2003 12:38 PM
So Tuon's a
channeler, right? Is she just one who can learn, or who has
the spark? I know what you're thinking, you're thinking that
she would've been tested for damane and caught if she were.
But there might be some special perrogative of the Imperial
family that they're just tested to be sul'dam. Maybe, or maybe
I'm being weird.
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aleshandre
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posted January 25, 2003 02:27 PM
Since the
damane are used like metal detectors to find marath damane,
it's unlikely that she was born with the spark. Also, once a
marath damane is identified, her name is blotted out of her
family's book and if of the blood, out of the book of the
blood. Nobody is immune, Tuon said (in her internal monologue)
that right after failing the test to see if she was marath
damane, she tested for suldam (WH,prologue). We know; however,
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