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Tristifer
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posted May 15, 2003 05:58 PM
would there
be any differences if a male took the Aes Sedai PrC? i am
building a campaign based off of the WoT world and want to
have a central learning center for both male and female
channelers that aren't "battle oriented" like the Asha'man.
kind of like the Parran Disen(sp?) of the Age of
Legends.
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TheFlatline
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posted May 15, 2003 10:50 PM
If it's not
set in the WoT setting, then no, I doubt there'd be any real
reason why a male caster couldn't take Aes Sedai PrC.
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torchflame
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posted May 15, 2003 11:17 PM
The main
thing is that in the books there have been no male aes
sedai since the age of legends. Plus there's that whole male
channelers being more powerful, but balanced by madness thing.
Just a couple of considerations to keep in mind. That
being said, it's YOUR campaign, run it how you want to. So
long as the players don't care, and everyone has fun, anything
goes (within reason )
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boys, are we to the gods; They kill us for their
sport."
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Freya
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posted May 16, 2003 07:03 AM
The only
thing I'd consider removing, would be the 'Ageless Face'. The
Agelessness is a side effect of taking the Three Oaths on the
Oath Rod. The Three Oaths weren't sworn until after the male
Aes Sedai went crazy. But, if you like the effect to make Aes
Sedai visually 'obvious' then go for it.
As for
torchflame's mention of the power vs. madness balancing for
male channelers, I guess the only balancing factor (without
madness) would be the tenets of the Aes Sedai. The balances
would be strictly role-playing based, like female Aes Sedai
now.
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Tristifer
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posted May 17, 2003 05:00 PM
thankx all,
i just didn't know if i should change any of the abilities or
not. i dont think i will, other than the 'ageless face" thing.
and yea there will be some issues if the channelers start
abusing their powers. anyone heard of
Mord-Sith?
-------------------- Eth Sularus Oth
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Whitewinds
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posted May 17, 2003 05:59 PM
Unfortunately, the Mord-Sith are based on certain
assumptions about magic that simply don't apply in the WoT
world, and I don't see any real way to implement any
functionally similar organization.
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Phate
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posted May 18, 2003 07:30 AM
The Ageless
Face ability is not caused by the Oath Rod or the Three Oaths.
In book 10, Egwene mentions that the Oath Rod actually
shortens the lifespan of the Aes Sedai. I'd keep it.
But it's your campaign
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Xythlord
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posted May 18, 2003 07:58 AM
Actually
there are numerous refrences about the Oath Rod giving the Aes
Sedai the Ageless face, but it does shorten the lifespan by as
much as half. There are way too many examples of channelers
who are older than some of the Aes Sedai who do not possess
the Ageless look that they do (Wise Ones, Forsaken, The Kin,
etc.)
I think what you are referring to is the fact
that channeling slows down the aging
process.
-------------------- Only two things are
infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure
about the former. Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
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Tristifer
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posted May 18, 2003 10:26 AM
whitewinds-
i am thinking of using Mord-Sith type NPC's to enfoce the
channelers/wizards/sorcerers from abusing their powers. any of
the PC's that start abusing their powers will be rounded up by
a Mord-Sith and brought to the "White Tower" (i dont have a
name yet for the Aes Sedai home base).
and as to the
ageless face/shortened life span - i believe that it is a
result of the oath rod. none of the forsaken or the kin show
the ageless face that is associated with Aes Sedai. also in
one of the forsaken's POV i remember someone thinking/talking
about how the Aes Sedai of the 3rd age are 'bound like
criminals'
-------------------- Eth Sularus Oth
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redrigger4567
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posted May 18, 2003 11:26 AM
if you are
going to mix male and female AS, and do away with madness. why
dont you just do away with the section that says men are
stronger. take one advantage away for each advantage. just a
thought.
-------------------- what do you mean it
got lose what happened to the salt circle?!?!?
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Sharn_Penndroen Member Member
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posted May 18, 2003 12:14 PM
The fact
that men are stronger than women is not a result of the taint.
It is the nature of things. Women can link up to 13 sisters
together without a man. Men can't link together at all with
out a woman. These are the balancing factors. And if men
channelers are stronger than women that is fine with me. That
is how it is depicted in the books. Channelers in general are
more powerful than everyone else. So whatever, if you want to
weaken men to make it "fair" you can, but I would just leave
it. It is the nature of the
beast.
-------------------- A man who will not die
to save a woman is no man. - Shienaran Saying
The Light
shine on you, and the Creator shelter you. The last embrace of
the mother welcome you home. - Shienaran Funeral
Ceremony
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Moon-Hawk
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posted May 19, 2003 04:55 AM
So, in case
anyone's still confused: Channelers live longer. The
oath rod shortens this extended lifespan and causes the
ageless look.
Also, just to clear this up, (sounds like
the beginning of a rant) as it is stated very clearly in the
books as well as the BBoBA, male channelers are stronger in
the power and female channelers have more control when it
comes to weaving. THAT is the fundamental balance between the
genders, and half of it is not at all reflected in the game.
(one of my biggest complaints) The two genders are inherently
balanced by these two things. The madness should NOT balance
the two, it should imbalance them. The three thousand years
between the breaking and the novels is the time when the
genders are imbalanced. Only before and after the taint are
they balanced, it's strength vs. control, not strength vs.
sanity or anything like that. All of the other differences
(ability to make circles, ability to exceed circle size of 13,
ability to sense other gender channeling, ability to sense
potential strength in a student, etc.) are all secondary
balancers between the genders. (end
rant)
-------------------- I've learned too many
systems. Sometimes I even forget which system is the REAL
world uses. Uh-oh.
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JosephKell
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posted May 21, 2003 10:18 PM
Madness can
be an advantage! "Now look what you did!!" "It wasn't my fault I
grabbed her butt, it was the little voice in my head!" Or "He
did it." (refering to the fireball that just set a farm on
fire)
Madness is an excuse! Not a handicap! ![[Big Grin]](Wizards_Com Boards male Aes Sedai_fichiers/biggrin.gif)
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