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Kun Al'Araan
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posted August 08, 2002 02:28 PM      Profile for Kun Al'Araan   Email Kun Al'Araan    Edit/Delete Post
When in the book did any character used ward against shadowspawn or ward against the one power or against people ? I mean why would a forsaken bother to slice the weave thrown at him if he could just protect himself from the one power ? What Moiraine often did in the book was putting ward that would just warn them of incoming, shadowspawn or people not the two at the same time. Why wouldn't they just casted ward against shadowspawn tied it off, and then go find a warm soft bed in shadar logoth ? So maybe i'm wrong but these weave seems weird to me.

Kun AL'Araan

PS : for the master ward it is even worst why even bother in a fight ?

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posted August 08, 2002 03:34 PM      Profile for JosephKell   Email JosephKell    Edit/Delete Post
They did explain this.

In the beginning of the Great Hunt (and in Eye of the World), she says that should could put a barrier to stop shadowspawn from coming to them, however doing so would alert certain types that can sense channeling (Fades), so sure they are safe, but they are stuck too and at the time they didn't know how to gate so they would be screwed.

And Ward against people was used at the Battle of Dumi's Well, how else do you think the asha'man kept the Shado from rushing like a wave among the Aes Sedai caravan? [Razz]
(That is how my channeler learned a bunch of weaves, at the battle of Dumi's well)
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Kun Al'Araan
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posted August 09, 2002 04:59 AM      Profile for Kun Al'Araan   Email Kun Al'Araan    Edit/Delete Post
Well they actually used harden air or master ward but not ward against people or else all the aiel could have used their bow to touch them. The harden air spell is well enought and simple enough so that every ashaman could cast it easily.

So ok ward against shadowspawn exist, but what about the others ?

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posted August 09, 2002 06:52 AM      Profile for drothgery      Edit/Delete Post
Moiraine used Ward Against People on her room in Fal Dara; Liandrin and Anaiya could not enter it. In that conversation, it was strongly implied that you could ward a place to allow only channelers or only non-channelers.

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Kun Al'Araan
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posted August 09, 2002 07:25 AM      Profile for Kun Al'Araan   Email Kun Al'Araan    Edit/Delete Post
Ok so ward against people and shadowspawn exist but what about ward against the one power ??
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posted August 09, 2002 07:49 AM      Profile for Xythlord   Email Xythlord    Edit/Delete Post
I believe the Ward Against the One Power was used by Rand when he and Moiraine were fighting Lanfear. He made a ward that kept her from channeling at the people on the dock and kept them from getting in.

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posted August 09, 2002 01:52 PM      Profile for Stiletto   Email Stiletto    Edit/Delete Post
I think what Kun wants to know is, why not ward around yourself then fry your opponent? because your channeling would be useless against the other person, it would just create a stalemate (and stalemate isn't enough for Forsaken, nae'blis is a one person position. [Evil Smirk] )

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Kun Al'Araan
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posted August 09, 2002 02:55 PM      Profile for Kun Al'Araan   Email Kun Al'Araan    Edit/Delete Post
Then why not ward a Lan type character and yourself and use him to kill a channeller, just like a gholamexcept much simplier
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posted August 09, 2002 03:17 PM      Profile for JosephKell   Email JosephKell    Edit/Delete Post
Ward Against One Power is weaved onto the ground I do believe, unless kept as concentration. And also some channelers have Ward Bore, letting them cut through weaves they can see.

If Ward Against [blank] is area if tied off then the armsman will have to come out of it to get me, or if it is THAT big i can just step in and weave a ward against people around him/her and laugh then use immolation on him/her.

When I can't channel I run, when I can't run, I scream for help, when I can't scream for help I try to cut a deal, and when all else fails: cry like a little girl and beg for mercy. And if THAT doesn't work... I make my peace with the world and try the whole thing over again!

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posted August 09, 2002 05:14 PM      Profile for Kixie   Email Kixie    Edit/Delete Post
Ward against the one Power is (as a i see it) just a sheild to keep the power from coming in (absorbs or reflects power attacks.) I play an online WoT game (http://www.wheeloftimerp.com) and that's one of the weaves taught sometimes in Accepted lessons.

~Kixie

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posted August 10, 2002 08:07 AM      Profile for CdtData   Email CdtData    Edit/Delete Post
But Ward Against the One Power is most likely only effective against direct Power attacks. Would weaves like Lightning still get through? I think they would. And would Earthquake still rock the ground beneath the person? I think so, too.

The warding Rand used against Lanfear was Master Ward. Not only did it stop the One Power from leaving, no one could penetrate it. They were left pounding on the dome, but couldn't get through.

What this game really needs is the detection wards Moiraine set. I think I might work on those rules tonight.

Dustin

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posted August 10, 2002 08:12 AM      Profile for Xythlord   Email Xythlord    Edit/Delete Post
just wait a few more days when Under the Dragons Banner gets posted. It has several new wards with some of the stuff you are looking for.

Teaser
Circle of Sounds
Deflecting the Shoot
Forbiddance
Hidden Words
Shield (Revised)
Slice Weave
Ward Against Intrusion

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