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Topic: Learning
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The Keeper
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posted March 26, 2003 07:57 PM
I am a very
new GM and learning everything as I go. I don't think there is
anything regarding "figuring out" a weave. For example, my
characters are currently in a mirror world and not sure how
they got there. The only way out is through a portal stone.
Except they don't know how to use it. They have found someone
how has seen it done but can't do it themselves. I remember in
the books this is how Rand got out of the mirror world. What
would be the rules? I was thinking +15-20 on the
weavesight to see if they can figure it out. Also this person
is multiclassed in Initiate and Wilder so should be
ok.
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JosephKell
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posted March 26, 2003 08:46 PM
As GM you
can do whatever you want (but if you abuse your players you
may end up alone).
If you want them to get out by
learning to use portal stone, then they will use that
method.
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Sharn_Penndroen Member Member
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posted March 27, 2003 05:15 AM
I've always
wondered why does it matter to a Wilder if a weave is Common,
Rare, or Lost. I mean they aren't learning from someone else.
Wouldn't they have the same likelihood of figuring out a Rare
or Lost weave as they figuring out a Common weave. They would
atleast have a chance to do
so.
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Fyatuk
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posted March 27, 2003 05:56 AM
Not
necessarily. Weaves are all rare or lost because people could
realize they could be done. Some of it is due to the
difficulty. It's been a long time since there were people
strong enough for certain weaves. I would give wilders a
weavesight check with common weaves having a DC equal to
learning a weave from someone's casting a level you can cast
(don't have my book, don't remember the number). Rare would
have a +10 and Lost a +20 to the DC. (numbers may need to be
fudged, again not sure without the book).
Remember, its
hard to get to the point where you can figure those out, but
when you do it comes quickly. Once the DC's are no longer a
problem, they are good to
go.
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Freya
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posted March 27, 2003 07:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by The Keeper: The only
way out is through a portal stone. Except they don't know
how to use it. They have found someone how has seen it done
but can't do it themselves.
This reminds me of the scene where Sorilea shows
Cadsuane how to weave a Traveling portal. Sorilea doesn't have
the strength enough to weave it correctly, but is still able
to form the weave enough for Cadsuane to learn it by
weavesight.
If the one who saw it can at least form the
weave, it could then be possible for the channeler to learn
it. Just add a small modifier for not seeing the weave formed
to completion.
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Freya
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posted March 27, 2003 07:20 AM
Doh, double
post.
[ March 27, 2003, 07:21 AM: Message edited
by: Freya
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skyman
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posted March 27, 2003 03:25 PM
I
occasionally let my players "figure out" weaves on the fly. I
don't do this with combat or healing weaves (they should learn
them themselves). But weaves like use portal stone that
advance the story and aren't overbalancing I don't have a
problem with. If they NEED to learn it to advance the story,
make a show of having them roll weavesight or some other
check, and let them learn automatically. Of course, its
important to DM with whatever style you think fits. ![[Smile]](Wizards_Com Boards Learning unseen weaves_fichiers/smile.gif)
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Steve Russell
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posted March 27, 2003 03:51 PM
there is a
mechanic for this in the book its called an exceptional
success. If the weave is rare or Lost someone has to teach
them. If some one is teaching them but unable to show them the
weave (a women teaching a man is dangerous look at book 4, a
stilled or burned out channeler) it should require an
exceptional success +10 to the DC.
Just my opinion I
could be wrong (but im probably
not)
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