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Mad_Wanderer
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posted May 12, 2003 10:14 PM      Profile for Mad_Wanderer      Edit/Delete Post
These are a few questions i can't seem to find answers for.

- Do Children whose mothers are maidens of the spear know they were adopted ? And do Wise Ones transfer the child to another clan or sept ?

- What is a second father or mother and why is it an insult to speak of them ?

- Does anyone know what Hunters of the Horn have to swear to ?

- Who makes them take the oath ? The King of Illian ? (any more details are welcome)

- Apart from Rogosh Eagle Eye, Gaidal Cain, Artur Paendrag, and Birgitte do we know of any other Heroes of the Horn ?

- Do any contraceptive herbs/potions exist in the westlands ? Are they common in their use ? Same question but for the Aiel Waste : would Maidens of the spears use it ?

- Do any drugs exist in the westlands ?

- Has anyone made a map or a chart showing how trade, import and export work in the westlands ? (who buys what and from how in other words)

- What started the White Cloak wars ? What enabled them to take over Amadicia ?

That's all I can think of right now [Big Grin]
The main problem with such a good book is the number of questions it raises [Big Grin]

[ May 12, 2003, 10:15 PM: Message edited by: Mad_Wanderer ]

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posted May 12, 2003 11:39 PM      Profile for Steve Russell   Email Steve Russell    Edit/Delete Post
- Do Children whose mothers are maidens of the spear know they were adopted ? And do Wise Ones transfer the child to another clan or sept ?

That is unknown. It is assumed they do not that way a child of a madien could not seek out his true mother. I would assume they are transfereed to another sept at the least.

- What is a second father or mother and why is it an insult to speak of them ?

In Laws (its generaly a bad idea to talk about your mother in law trust me)

- Does anyone know what Hunters of the Horn have to swear to ?

its in book three min talks about having sworn to follow what is strange so that it may lead you to he horn but the acutal oath is unknown probably has something to do with you salvation and rebirth.

- Who makes them take the oath ? The King of Illian ? (any more details are welcome)

You take the oath before the council

- Apart from Rogosh Eagle Eye, Gaidal Cain, Artur Paendrag, and Birgitte do we know of any other Heroes of the Horn ?

yes

Calian The Chooser: She wears a red mask
Shivan The Hunter. He wears a black mask his sister Calian and he are supposed to herald the end of Ages and the birth of the new.
Amaresu: she weilds the Sword of the Sun
Paedrig the Golden-Tongued Peace Maker
Mikel of the Pure Heart
Otarin
and maybe Hurin (if he is dead yet)

- Do any contraceptive herbs/potions exist in the westlands ? Are they common in their use ?
Min mentions something called heartleaf tea. we assume it is a contraceptive.

Same question but for the Aiel Waste : would Maidens of the spears use it ?
Avienda knows about it but she says she will not use it becase she wants his children. (so it is not disallowed by je'i'toh apparently.

- Do any drugs exist in the westlands?
well we wonder about tabac and their is drinking. RJ is a PG kind of guy so expect him to stay away from it go read GRRM

- Has anyone made a map or a chart showing how trade, import and export work in the westlands ? (who buys what and from how in other words)
Not that I have seen. though you can guess the major trades and trade routes you could easily put it together.

- What started the White Cloak wars ?
White cloaks invading Altara and being countered by Illian.

What enabled them to take over Amadicia ? the Wot has few standing armies most are levies or liege men of nobles who have other lives they don't spend thier time being soldiers. A proffesional soldier usually kicks a weekend warrior but every day of the week and twice on sunday

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posted May 13, 2003 07:03 AM      Profile for Freya      Edit/Delete Post
originally posted by Mad_Wanderer
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- Do any contraceptive herbs/potions exist in the westlands ? Are they common in their use ?

Steve already gave the book examples to support herbal contraceptives, so I'll just write some game thinking. While herbal contraceptives certainly exist, I don't think it would be fair to say just anyone knows how to make them. Women would either have to go to a professional Herbalist (Wise Woman, Wisdom, etc) or have it taught to them by their mothers. If a character makes it themselves, then I'd say they need at least one or two ranks of Craft:Herbalism. If they just know the names of the herbs necessary to explain it to a Herbalist to make, then maybe just one rank of Profession:Herbalism (if there was a knowledge:herbalism, then I'd recommend that instead).

I'll leave it to a male point-of-view to decide whether a man would even think about contraceptives, or whether they would just assume the woman would take care of it.

[ May 13, 2003, 07:04 AM: Message edited by: Freya ]

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posted May 13, 2003 10:43 AM      Profile for Kushiel      Edit/Delete Post
I would say given how strong the female characters are in WOT, and how female centric some of the ruling bodies are (women's council, queens, any of Ebou Dar), it is probably the woman's right, and her decision wether to have children, and I would say the men have very little to do with it. I mean Rand, Matt, and Perin have all slept with at least 1 woman, and none of them have even considered the consequences of children being produced, and so I would say that contraceptives are common enough that no one worries about it.

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posted May 15, 2003 06:14 AM      Profile for Lord_of_the_Seven_Towers      Edit/Delete Post
As far as trade routes go the onlyplace they might be is in the World of the Wheel of Time. If theyre not there the only likely official source is RJ himself. Or you could RaFO, you never know a long chapter on trade routse may be just around the corner in the next book.

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posted May 15, 2003 05:43 PM      Profile for lostone      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Kushiel:
I would say given how strong the female characters are in WOT, and how female centric some of the ruling bodies are (women's council, queens, any of Ebou Dar), it is probably the woman's right, and her decision wether to have children, and I would say the men have very little to do with it. I mean Rand, Matt, and Perin have all slept with at least 1 woman, and none of them have even considered the consequences of children being produced, and so I would say that contraceptives are common enough that no one worries about it.

I disagree, I think Rand certainly considered it, he wanted to marry Aviendha after their first time, it was her that said no. Perrin is just as honorable, but Mat, being the rogue that he is didn't seem to worry about it with Melindhra. Rand wasn't even thinking about kids really, just the idea of what they had done. But there are several of the men in the Band of the Red Hand that I doubt would be too worried about it, and other various examples in the books. Most womanizers in that world seem to be of the opinion that it is the woman's responsibility, regardless of the consequences. [Devilish]
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posted May 16, 2003 06:45 PM      Profile for MT      Edit/Delete Post
- Has anyone made a map or a chart showing how trade, import and export work in the westlands ? (who buys what and from how in other words).

If you read the books you get a good idea of what goes where, but in general, follow the rivers and the big cities.

There is a huge line of trade running from Tear all the way up to Tar Valon that includes Caemlyn and Cairhien. It stems a little as it goes into the borderlands. Pretty much everything under the sun runs up and down this trade route, but grain seems to be a huge item.

There are also a smaller line running off this to Baeron/Emond's field. Baeron has a lot of mines, and Emond's Field has wool and tobbacco.

The other huge line of trade runs along the coastline from Tear to Bandar Eban, including every coastal city in between. It includes everything you can trade, but also includes trade from the Atha'an Miere (Sea Folk) who have lots of goodies from other places and rarely go inland. They are famous for their porcelain and glass.

There are few land trade routes running through Amadicia, Tarabon, and Arad Doman because Amadicia is run by White Cloaks and Tarabon and Arad Doman are fighting all the time. Plus it's faster to sail.

In addition, there is the smallest of trade routes in and out of the waste, because only certain merchants and Tinkers are allowed through. It is, however, where much of the silk comes from.

That's a pretty rough overview.

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