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Topic: Diffrent
Class idea for Black tower Soldier as opsose to White tower
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Heron_Marked_Blade Member Member
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posted February 11, 2003 08:29 PM
I would use
this. I think it compares favorably to the other channeling
classes, and I like the WoT flavor: it definitely fills a gap
in the RPG that was previously unfilled regarding male
channelers who begin in the Black Tower.
Male Wilders
can crossclass into this class once they arrive at the Black
Tower. Standard procedure from there, I assume? I.e. add up
channeling levels to determine weaves per day, etc,
etc?
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JosephKell
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posted February 11, 2003 09:20 PM
which one
do you mean Heron?
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Eagle Prince
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posted February 11, 2003 09:28 PM
Well... now
it pretty much looks like a wilder with a few minor changes.
He assumedly has a better bonus feat list, but with such low
BAB Weapon Focus or Power Attack would be pretty useless.
Before he got increased madness, only a couple bonus weaves,
no block (but men could already get rid of that at level 1),
Initiate weaves per day, missed out on the Wilder's non-Talent
weave bonus, worse slow aging, a stricter code, simple
and martial weapon proficiencies, and he could pick up
about half of the armsmen bonus feat list instead of a
channeling bonus feat. Probably some other stuff I'm not
remembering. I just think it should be different enough to
warrent a new class rather then looking more like a varient
Wilder class.
I'd consider at least changing the 2nd
level bonus feat to Improved Unarmed Strike to force them to
take it. IMO the Black Tower would force them to learn it, so
it seems right.
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JosephKell
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posted February 11, 2003 10:19 PM
yes they
could get rid of a block at level 1, but that uses a precious
feat that a wilder needs to qualify for Asha'man by level 6.
Unless the GM lets the wilder multiclass into Initiate (book
version) if they want to become an Asha'man fastest. I did
change it a bit.
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posted February 12, 2003 06:36 AM
I don't
recall the Black Tower training in unarmed melee. I do
remember that Rand told Taim to have the men train with the
sword. I just don't think that the improved unarmed would be
appropriate, though I do like the first version a little beter
overall. How about a merge of some kind to improve balance
alittle, while maintaining as much of the WoT flavor of the
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Heron_Marked_Blade Member Member
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posted February 12, 2003 06:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by JosephKell: which one
do you mean Heron?
I like the second posting, but I think I'd increase the
BAB. I know it makes them more powerful, but I think it
reflects their martial training. I see them with the same sort
of BAB as a noble; they can't stand up to an armsman in pure
combat, but they are much better in melee combat than a Wilder
or Initiate.
I like the saves, defense, and feat
progression in the second posting as well. Could someone give
me a quote or book reference to where men in the Black Tower
are being trained in unarmed combat? I know Rand trained with
the Aiel, and I know the men were trained in swordwork, but I
don't remember them being trained in unarmed combat... If
there is no book reference, I would not give them Improved
Unarmed Strike as a bonus
feat.
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JosephKell
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posted February 12, 2003 01:19 PM
I changed
the bab back.
Actually Rand had to force Taim to teach
them the sword, why would he impress more martial abilities on
them?
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posted February 12, 2003 04:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by
Heron_Marked_Blade: Could someone give me a quote
or book reference to where men in the Black Tower are being
trained in unarmed combat? I know Rand trained with the
Aiel, and I know the men were trained in swordwork, but I
don't remember them being trained in unarmed combat... If
there is no book reference, I would not give them Improved
Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat.
Ch 42 "Black Tower" book 6 Lord of Chaos "Henre
Haslin had a line of bare-chested men under his eye, working
the forms with practice swords. With only a fringe of white
hair and a bulbous red nose, Haslin sweated more than his
students, and doubtless was wishing for his wine, but he
watched and corrected as sharply as when he was Master of the
Sword for the Queen's Guards. Saeric, a gray-haired Red Water
Goshien with no right hand, had two shirtless rows under his
stony eyes. One was kicking as high as their heads, pivot and
kick, then pivot and kick with the other foot, over and over;
the other punched the air in front of them as fast they could.
All in all, it was a far cry from the pitiful handful Rand had
seen the last time.
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Eagle Prince
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posted February 12, 2003 07:05 PM
Well, there
you go. It's even Aiel martial arts they're
learning.
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aleshandre
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posted February 12, 2003 07:47 PM
I stand
corrected. ![[Blush]](Wizards_Com Boards Diffrent Class idea for Black tower Soldier as opsose to White tower initiate (2)_fichiers/blush.gif)
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JosephKell
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posted March 17, 2003 04:37 PM
Has anyone
actually tried using this
variant?
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