FAQ 2: Whatever happened to ...
From: heederik@fwi.uva.nl (Robbert Heederik)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: alt.fan.frank-zappa FAQ: Whatever Happened To ... 1/2
Date: 4 Jul 1995 08:54:01 -0000
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| alt.fan.frank-zappa FAQ Whatever Happened To ... |
| PART A (in two parts) |
| Maintained by Douglas Obrecht (obrecht@rd.qms.com) |
| Revision 3, February 25, 1995 |
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Musicians TimeLine
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Remarks:
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* some minor corrections since last version
* did not take into account 200 Motels and the 'orchestral' Cd's.
Maybe the omission of '200 motels' is responsible for some gaps
between 69 and 71.
* bootlegs: only 'The Ark' taken into account
* sorted by descending dashes and then by ascending (first+last) name
* Included the instruments:
B = bass v = vocals
D = drums t = trumpet
G = Guitar w = woodwinds
K = Keyboards b = brass
P = percussion g = gong
S = Sax
T = Trombone
V = violin
H = Harmonica
65 67 69 71 73 75 77 79 81 83 85 87 89
| 66| 68| 70| 72| 74| 76| 78| 80| 82| 84| 86| 88| 90
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Jimmy Carl Black Dv|--------- - - |
Roy Estrada Bv|--------- --- - - |
Ray Collins v |-------- - - |
Eliot Ingbar G |--- |
Don Preston K | ----- ---- -- |
Jim Sherwood S | ----- - |
Bunk Gardner S | ----- |
Billy Mundi | --- |
Ian Underwood KS| ---- -------- |
Arthur Tripp D | ---- |
Ruth Underwood P | -- ---------- |
Nelcy Walker | -- |
Sugarcane Harris V | -- --- - |
Dave Samuels P | - - |
Buzz Gardner t | - |
Lowell George Gv| - |
Johnny Guerin D | -- -- |
Max Bennet B | -- --- |
Paul Humphrey | -- |
Don Van Vliet Hv| - - -- |
Ron Selico | - |
Shuggie Otis | - |
Aynsley Dunbar D | -------- |
Howard Kaylan v | ---- |
Mark Volman v | ---- |
George Duke Kv| -- -- ------- - |
Jeff Simmons BG| -- - -- |
Jim Pons Bv| -- |
Jean-Luc Ponty V | - ---- |
Bob Harris Kv| - -- - -- |
Alan Estes P | - |
Bob Zimitti P | - |
Earl Dumler w | - |
Ernie Tack b | - |
Ernie Watts S | - |
Fred Jackson w | - |
Joanne Caldwell w | - |
Johnny Rotella w | - |
Lee Clement g | - |
Tony Ortega w | - |
Bruce Fowler T | ----- - -- --- |
Ralph Humphrey D | ----- |
Erroneous B | --- |
Sal Marquez tv| --- |
Tow Fowler B | -- ---- -- |
Malcolm McNabb b | -- |
Tony Duran G | -- |
Bill Beyers t | - |
Chris Peterson v | - |
Janet Ferguson v | - |
Joel Peskin Sw| - |
Ken Shroyer b | - |
Mike Altschul bw| - |
Pete Kleinov G | - |
Rickie Lancelotti v | - |
Jack Bruce B | -- |
Jim Gordon D | -- |
Napoleon Murphy Brock Sv| ------- - - -- |
Chester Tompson D | ----- |
Walt Fowler t | -- --- |
Kerrie McNabb v | - |
Susan Glover v | - |
Terry Bozzio Dv| ----------- |
Dave Parlato B | ----- |
Patrick O'Hearn B | ---- ----- - - - |
Johnny Guitar Watson v | - - -- |
Don Brewer P | - |
Andre Lewis K | --- - |
Thana Harris v | -- - |
James Youman B | -- |
Denny Walley Gv| - -- --- - |
Davey Moire v | - - - |
Eddie Jobson KV| - -- |
Bianca Odin Kv| - |
Ray White Gv| - -- ---------- |
Lu Ann Neil | - |
Sharkey Barker | - |
Don Pardo v | - |
Lou Marini S | - |
Michael Brecker S | - |
Randy Brecker t | - |
Ronnie Kuber S | - |
Tom Malone t | - |
Tommy Mars K | ------------ - |
Peter Wolf K | ------ - |
Ed Mann P | ----- ----- --- |
Adrian Belew Gv| --- |
David Ocker | - - |
Randy Thornton | - |
Arthur Barrow BK| ------ - - |
Vinnie Colaiuta D | --- -- |
Dale Bozzio v | -- --- |
Al Malkin | -- |
Shankar V | - |
Ike Willis Gv| - --- - ---- --- |
Craig Stewart H | - |
Warren Cucurullo G | - - |
David Logeman D | --- |
Chad Wackerman D | ----- -- --- |
Scott Thunes B | ----- -- --- |
Steve Vai G | ----- |
Lisa Popeil v | - - |
Bobby Martin Kv| ---- -- --- |
Moon Zappa v | - - |
Dweezil Zappa G | - - |
Ahmet Zappa v | - |
Brad Cole | - |
Craig Stewart | - |
Alan Zavod K | -- |
Archie Shepp S | - |
Albert Wing S | --- |
Kurt McGettrick S | --- |
Mike Kenneally Gv| --- |
Paul Carman S | --- |
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| 66| 68| 70| 72| 74| 76| 78| 80| 82| 84| 86| 88| 90
65 67 69 71 73 75 77 79 81 83 85 87 89
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ARTHUR BARROW
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Was Zappa's "Clonemeister" after the 1978 tour. He had the responsibility
of running rehersals in Frank's absence.
Last I heard of Barrow, he was touring with ex-Doors guitarist Robbie Krieger,
as was Preston, but that was some time ago. Appears on Krieger's "No Habla"
CD (1989).
Had a solo album 'Music for Listening ' released in 1992 on Tom and Slev's
New Masters, which has since folded, though Arthur has copies (but I have
no address for AB). Had some sort of underground rap hit late 1993 in the
California area. Worked with disco king Giorgio Moroder in the
1980s (god help us).
Arthur Barrows album "Eyebrow Razor" (changed from "Raiser") is ready to
go into manufacturing this month (Oct 94).
ADRIAN BELEW
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After touring with FZ, Adrian toured with the Talking Heads. He first did
this because FZ had planned a break and AB was to join FZ again when he
was going to form a new band. But then FZ changed his mind and when he put
together a new band AB was still with the Talking Heads (He's on the live album
"The name of this band is..").
AB also toured with David Bowie (live album:"Stage"). He joined King Crimson
for a couple of tours and three albums ("Discipline", "Beat" and "Three of
a Perfect Pair"). After the Crimson split-up he released solo-albums and
did some studio-work (Herbie Hancock, amongst others).
Solo albums :
1. "The Lone Rhino" (1981) ****
2. "Twang Bar King", (1983) *****
3. "Desire Caught by the Tail" (1985??) ***
4. "Mr. Music Head" (1989) ***
5. "Young Lions" (1990) ***
5a. "Pretty Pink Rose" (CD single w/ 2 unreleased tracks, 1990)
6. Inner Revolution (1992) ****
7. "Desire of the Rhino King" (1991) - digitally remastered ****
compilation of 1, 2, and 3
8. "Acoustic Adrian Belew" (1993) (rating ??)
9. "Here" (1994) **
Adrian Belew had a solo acoustic tour last fall (where he was distributing
his own acoustic cd) & should be coming out with another solo album
(electric with sidemen this spring). (source: Belew's mouth at Wolf
Trap last fall by way of Belew fan Erik Brady).
I'm 80% sure that he toured with Laurie Anderson and appears in her
movie of the tour "Home of the Brave".
In 1987/8 Adrian Belew played with a band called "The Bears".
They released two albums on Primitive Man/IRS/MCA: "The Bears" (1987)
and "Rise and Shine" (1988). Adrian produced both albums. I'm not sure
how many shows they did, but I did catch them in NYC, I believe it was
at "Irving Plaza". The band featured Adrian - guitar, vocals;
Rob Fetters - guitar, vocals; Bob Nyswonger - bass;
Chris Arduser - drums. The group was formed in his home town of
Cincinnati, Ohio. They all wrote. Adrian did most of the vocals.
Adrian Belew released the album "Mr. Music Head" in 1989. He played
all the instruments except for two songs which featured Mike Barnett
on string bass and the tune "Oh Daddy" which featured his daughter
Audie on vocals. The animated video for "Oh Daddy", a humorous
semi-autobiographical tune, was actually in light rotation on MTV
for a few months.
I just picked this ("Here") up this weekend and only have had time to
listen to it a couple of times. The general feel of the album reminds
me of "Revolver"-era Beatles (ie, a slightly psychedelic pop album).
Belew plays all the instruments (the CD booklet consists of a bunch of
photos of Belew playing the instruments (and making tea) pasted together
as if it is an entire band). On one track, his bass playing is
very McCartney-esque (reminds me of "Taxman"). Of course, there are
lots of swirling, layered guitars throughout. The songs are all fairly
simple, but he has written some memorable melodies. Don't buy this if
you are expecting "Elephant Talk", but if you like well-crafted
Beatlesque-pop (I do), I think you will enjoy this album.
If you get a chance to see Adrian Belew, you should do so. I
also picked up a copy of The Acoustic Adrian Belew, which contains
acoustic versions of a number of his own songs, and a Beatles and
Roy Orbison cover.
Adrian Belew may be the nicest man in the music business. After the
show, he hung around and talked to the fans one on one. I got him to
autograph my copy of "The Acoustic Adrian Belew" and chatted with him
about the new Crimson. He said that they have already started recording
and that their final recording session is scheduled for December.
He said that the album should be out in March or April of next year.
He said that with all the players it was pretty hard to tell who was
playing what. He also mentioned that they were recording at Peter
Gabriel's studio in Bath.
He has gotten back together with Robert Fripp and Company with a New
and Improved King Crimson (a double trio). They have released their first
album, a 31:04 CD called "VROOOM". Per the liner notes, "This was
recorded between May 2-7th, 1994 during the first full rehearsals of this,
the double trio formation of King Crimson. We present VROOOM as a calling
card, rather than a love letter, to those generous enough to give it
ears." The 94/95 King Crimson consists of:
Robert Fripp - Guitar
Adrian Belew - Guitar, voice, words
Trey Gunn - Stick
Tony Levin - Basses and stick
Pat Mastelotto - Acoustic & Electronic Percussions
Bill Bruford - Acoustic & Electronic Percussions
It has been said in rec.music.progressive that a "full" CD will be
released in the spring of 95. This 31 minute CD has pissed off some KC
fans saying why should they pay $15 for a 31 minute CD of rehearsal
material. But then again, "Beat" is 35:21 long.
Does anyone know of a newsgroup frequented by King Crimson fans from
which I could glean the information I seek?
** POSTINGS
Please send all postings to Toby Howard, at toby@cs.man.ac.uk.
** SUBSCRIPTIONS/ADDRESS CHANGES
USA subscribers: please contact Ken Bibb at elephant-talk-request@arastar.com.
Non-USA subscribers: please contact Toby Howard, at
elephant-talk-request@cs.man.ac.uk.
** ARCHIVES
FTP: The Elephant Talk archives are available on ftp.uwp.edu,
in /pub/music/lists/elephant-talk,
and recent issues on ftp.cs.man.ac.uk in /pub/toby/elephant-talk.
Also, one other small extra bit of info - Adrian was with The Bears in 1987
and 1988 (as already stated), but The Bears became The Psychodots after
his departure and they commonly tour with Adrian as a warm-up act and as
a backup band.
JIMMY CARL BLACK
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Formed Geronomo Black back in the 70's. I think there were two albums.
Had an album out in the late 80's; called his band "The Mannish Boys";
never heard it.
Well, as I already mentioned in my post, Black, Preston and Gardner appear to
suing Zappa for his releasing the old MOI stuff without consulting
them.
Also appears on vocals on a couple of tapes by Ant Bee
(Billy James) and the Muffin Men CD 'Say Cheese and Thank You'. New
Grandmothers CD reasonably imminent, I expect.
Jimmy has been touring Europe with Eugene Chadbourne this fall &
winter. He had been thinking about moving to Italy. (source: T'Mershi Duween)
Jimmy Carl Black is credited on the cover of "Highway Cafe of the Damned"
by the Austin Lounge Lizards (P 1988; Watermelon 1001). He plays drums
on three songs: "Industrial Strength Tranquilizer," "When Drunks Go Bad,"
and "Get a Haircut, Dad." This is the only one of their four albums he
is listed on. I doubt that he ever played with them outside the studio.
This band, not to be confused with the Lounge Lizards, plays humorous
songs--largely bluegrass, but other styles as well. As their name
suggests, they are based in Austin, Texas, where I think JCB lived for
a while.
For awhile in the 80s Jimmy Carl & Arthur Brown (Crazy World of Arthur
Brown) had a painting company called Black & Brown Painting in Austin.
You may know this already, but Jimmy Carl Black did some recent touring
with radical hyperactive improvising/spoofing guitarist Eugene Chadbourne.
I don't know the details, such as venues and dates, but I know there are
audio documents of it: a CD entitled _Locked in a Dutch Coffeeshop_,
attributed to "The Jack and Jim Show," on (I believe) the Fundamental
label, and a C-90 cassette available directly from Chadbourne.
See GRANDMOTHERS.
DALE BOZZIO
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Dale and Terry split up at the same time as Missing Persons,
which was in 1986, as did Terry and Dale's marriage. Terry is remarried.
Dale Bozzio--had a solo album under the name "Dale" called
"Riot in English" in 1988--sort of a Janet Jackson/Karyn White/
Robert Smith/Samantha Fox/Prince sounding thing.
She is remarried and has two kids. According to
her manager, she is still involved in the music business, although
I haven't heard anything about it specifically. In 1991 she toured
as "Missing Persons" and did Missing Persons songs with a hired band.
She appeared at Zappa's Universe which was for Frank's 50th
birthday--eleven months late--it was held in Nov. 1991.
She sang "Fembot in a Wet T-shirt" and did the Mary speech from
"Packard Goose,"modifying it slightly to say "Music...and Frank
Zappa...are the best."
TERRY BOZZIO
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The ground breaking news on Terry Bozzio is that he has just done some work
with Duran Duran in the studio, recording, "Here Comes Success" (Iggy Pop
tune). This has made a lot of us DD/FZ/Missing Persons fans very happy, as
Duran hasn't had a stable drummer in many a year. Terry is a welcome addition
even if it is only a quick stint.
Oh yeah, don't forget Missing Persons, 3 albums ( none on CD, there is a
Best of though ) all worth picking up.
_Spring Session M_
_Rhyme & Reason_
_Color in Your Life_
Someone had inquired about Terry Bozzio's work. Here's the Bozziography,
as recommended by hisself, from ModernDrummer:
In the July '94 Modern Drummer interview with Terry Bozzio,
Terry lists the following as recordings that best represents
his drumming:
Solo Drum Music (vol. I and II), Terry Bozzio Polytown
Lonely Bears, artist Lonely Bears
Injustice, artist Lonely Bears
Heavy Metal Bebop, artist Brecker Brothers
Best Of, artist Missing Persons
Castalia, artist Mark Isham
Jeff Beck's Guitar Shop, artists Jeff Beck, Terry Bozzio, Tony Hymas
"Spring Session M" appears on cd. I believe it's an import
from Japan. Terry will also appear on some songs on the upcoming
Duran Duran album.
Was in a band called UK with Eddie Jobson and John Wetton. Terry replaced
Bill Bruford on drums. Can be found on the LP "Danger Money" (1979).
Bozzio is in a band at the moment called Lonely Bears with Hymas etc.,
the 3rd CD is due out at any time the first two CDs are superb
you can get them at G&S Music 0442 63287
TERRY BOZZIO is working in lotsa groups, and played on Jeff Beck's killer
GUITAR SHOP CD. Also toured with Jeff. Still has an edge.
Toured with Jeff Beck and is now touring with someone else, um, I
forget who though. I think he might be touring with Steve Vai's
current band.
Terry Bozzio is right now(?) on tour with Vai, a band presently consisting
of Steve Vai, Terry Bozzio, T.M. Stevens (bass), and Devin Townsend (vocals).
Has played on Jeff Becks "Guitar Shop" album and Steve Vai's,
"Sex and Religion."
Terry Bozzio has left Vai's band (source: T'Mershi Duween).
I've heard that Terry has recorded an album with Mick Karn, David Torn,
and Bozzio, to be released by the medium label. This came over the usenet,
but I'll be buying it when it comes out. Supposedly it's credited to all
their names.
I picked a Gary Wright album a few years ago cause it listed Bozzio,
but I don't believe the playing was much distinctive or memorable.
I've emailed ModernDrummer magazine (from rec.music.makers.percussion),
requesting that they post or email a Bozziography.
I believe there's some mo' Bozzio on the Jeff Beck collection that comes
in the FenderTweed case.
I don't know the Gary Wright material, but some while ago Bozzio was
on a Brecker Brothers release called 'Heavy Metal Bebop' (sorry if
someone else already mentioned this). What I heard sounded more like
'Purple Lagoon' than standard B-Bros; the recent CD I saw was too
expensive or it would now be mine (C$41, Japanese import I think).
It was a quintet - add bass and keybords to the others.
Bozzio is on David Torn's new album: "POLYTOWN is anything but quiet.
It's a ferocious, freewheeling electric improvisation. [Mick] Karn and
Terry Bozzio's rock background give it a groove and center around which
Torn whirls lines that transfigure in space." (John Diliberto, April 1994)
Saw Terry Bozzio's current band Polytown live last night, and just want
to say that it was one amazing percussion performance. Polytown is a
three person 90's supergroup thing, but to me Bozzio's playing was
consistantly interesting, and of course in the power trio format he
was given lots of space to show it off.
Saw Terry Bozzio's current band Polytown live last night, and just want to say
that it was one amazing percussion performance. Polytown is a three person
90's supergroup thing, but to me Bozzio's playing was consistantly
interesting, and of course in the power trio format he was given lots of
space to show it off.
Terry Bozzio appears in two Andy Taylor videos: Take It Easy and Wings
of Love. He did play on the actual songs, and they can be located on the
American Anthem soundtrack. Videos can be gotten from just about any
Duran Duran fan (Andy used to be in Duran Duran) or you can see Take
It Easy if you rent the American Anthem movie (they tacked it on to the end).
If I remember right, both Terry and Patrick O'Herne are in Andy's "When the
Rain Comes Down," but I'm not sure (it can be found on the Miami Vice
II album (not in the Miami Vice movie).
NAPOLEAN MURPHY BROCK
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Joined the George Duke band in the late 70s, and recorded a few albums.
Supposedly seen in Newcastle (England) in 1989 or
1990, where he had been talking to Kitchenware Records about a solo album,
which apparently came to nothing. After leaving the music biz, he went in to
raising dogs (good occupation for an ex-Zappa player; don't know how many
poodles he got through).
JACK BRUCE
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Mr. Bruce played in 60s bands including "Cream" with Eric Clapton
and Ginger Baker. Recently released a Cream-like album and single
as part of the band "BBM", for "Baker, Bruce, and Moore" with Gary
Moore handling Clapton's old role.
CHUNKY
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Nobody seems to remember Ilene Rapaport, aka Chunky. I'd be interested in
hearing what she is doing now. She had a band called Chunky, Novi and Ernie
in the 70s who played around North Hollywood. Novi played with Zappa I
believe during that period as well (she is a violist, and I forget her
name). Ernie was the token male in the band, on bass.
I'm not sure if he ever actually played with Zappa, but another violist,
Danny Seidenberg, who may have participated in some Zappa projects, is now
in Turtle Island. Does he appear on any recordings?
VINNIE COLAIUTA
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I recently heard that Vinnie Colaiuta is touring with Sting. Vinnie is
doing the current tour w/Sting. They were spotted on TV in
Europe. VC did the last Sting tour in '91 which was damn good.
He plays with Sting now. I saw it on TV last week. He is still great,
although I feel he doesn't really het a change to show off that great
accompanying (sp.??) style of drumming that made it work so good with
Frank's music. Vinnie Colaiuta played with Sting last night on the
Grammys. (source: my tv)
He also drummed on Jennifer Warnes' 1986 album Famous Blue Raincoat.
Just found another album that Vinnie Colaiuta appears on
... it's another Jennifer Warnes production called The Hunter,
which dates from 1992!
As far as I remember now, he played on a few tracks on the latest
"The The" Album.
Plays on David Benoit's "Inner Motion" (one song only) .
Vinnie C. plays on Joni Mitchells "Wild Things Run Fast" (1982) and
"Dog Eat Dog" (1985). Perhaps on later albums as well, but I'm pretty
sure he didn't play on earlier albums. He left FZ in 1982. I remember
reading an interview in which Vinnie says that his first real studio
job was Al Kooper "Championship Wrestling", which was released in 1982.
Appears on a few tracks on Allan Holdsworth's Secrets and Wardensclyffe
Tower. So does Chad Wackerman.
Vince has been busy doing jazz-fusion-type things:
he appears on bassist Bunny Bruenel's 'Dedication' (Musidisc),
trumpeter Jeff Beal's 'Three Graces' (Tiloka) and guitarist (?)
Jeff Richman's 'The Way In' (MGI Records).
I think he played with Buell Neidlinger (b) , Marty Krystall (ts),
and Hugh Schick (tp) on the BIG DRUM cd dedicated to pianist Herbie Nichols.
One of my favorite albums he's on (besides Joe's Garage and Ten Summoners
Tales) is the 1991 release by Brazillian singer/songwriter/pianist Ivan
Lins (perhaps best known for his standards "The Island" and "Love Dance."
The album is called "Awa Io" and it's on reprise records.
The album also features Tony Levin on chapman stick, and Heitor T.P.
(simply red) on guitar...
Vinnie Colaiuta played drums on the album track "Breath After Breath"
from the Duran Duran album "Duran Duran (The Wedding Album)", 1993.
The song is a collaboration between Duran Duran and Milton Nascimento.
He did not tour with them.
Played on the Soundtrack to "Beaches"
I don't know if he appears on the album or not (I'll assume yes),
but Vinnie Colaiuta has appeared with John Patitucci (bassist) in
support of the latter's ANOTHER WORLD album. Reviewer Jon Andrews
said the set was long and exciting, and included "increasingly feverish
grooves with Patitucci's six-string electric bass and Gary Thomas'
soprano sax playing in unison, surrounded by thick synthesizer chords
and percussive crossrhythms from [Sammy] Figueroa and drummer Vince
Colaiuta."
Vinnie may be on some Wishful Thinking albums (a contemporary
jazz band). David Garibaldi was the drummer for the first
two albums (Wishful Thinking and Thinking Again), but was
going to leave and Vinnie was supposed to be the replacement.
I don't know if that happened or even if any more albums
were recorded, but it might be worth checking out. If so, it
may prove to be tough to get the album. It took me almost a
year to get any of the first two albums.
He also appears on all but one cut of the as-yet-unreleased Warren
Cuccurullo (aka Sophia Warren) solo album, "Thanks to Frank"
(great title, eh?)
Vinnie's new disc is called "Vinnie Colaiuta," on Stretch Records,
a subsidiary label of GRP, #STD-1110. I found it in the
Miscellaneous Jazz-C bin in my local teenage record shop. Disc features
VC on drums and programming. Rest of the cast is guest stars, a nice
collection of jazzers (Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, John Patitucci)
and ersatz jazzers (Mr. Sting & Co.)
RAY COLLINS
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Released a cassette of demos in 1993, called 'Love Songs'. Also
an album of demos in 1981(?) on Polar Records (he says from memory). An odd
character; apparently hates Zappa's guts.
I think he is briefly in "Video From Hell". Goes something like:
Collins: Is that thing recording
Zappa: No.
Collins: You're lying, the tape recorder is ALWAYS going.
...
Collins: Zappa's dishing out the shit, one more time...
It's rather funny, if I could remember at all how it went. :)
Today I was walking the two blocks between my office and my house,
whistling "Wowie Zowie". Who should I meet but Ray Collins! I introduced
myself, and he was very friendly. He is not performing
because he has no band. He mentioned the Grandmothers, but said
he's not interested in singing Zappa's music, as that was
"water under the bridge".
WARREN CUCCURULLO
-----------------
Warren Cuccurullo (please note spelling, it is correct, no matter
what the liner notes say...)--in case anyone wondered what he is doing
now, he is in Duran Duran and has completely turned their sound around
and brought them into a whole new level of music. He has been with
them since 1986, and has been a full member since June 1989. The
Duran fans are being very slow to accept him, but I have won a few
converts.
If anyone has been wondering what Warren sounds like now, Duran Duran
was on MTV Unplugged Dec. 15, 1994 at 9 PM Eastern.
If you see the movie "With Honors," they (Duran Duran) did a cover
of the Led Zeppelin song "Thank You" and are on the soundtrack. Yes,
that is Warren on that great acoustic guitar and backward sounding
electric solo. He also was the guitarist on Duran Duran's recent
hits "Ordinary World," "Come Undone," and "Too Much Information."
One final note about Warren--he performed "Watermelon in Easter Hay"
as a tribute to Frank Zappa at the following Duran Duran show on the
past tour: 12/6/93 Portland OR, 12/7/93 Seattle, WA, 12/8/93 Vancouver,
BC, 1/13/94 (New York, NY) and 1/28/94 London, England.
PAMELA DES BARRES
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Played Journalist in 200 Motels. Was a member of The GTOs ("Girls
Together Outrageously") whose album was produced by Zappa. Author
of book "I'm with the band". Has slept with Chris Hillman, Mick
Jagger, Jimmy Page, etc, etc, etc.
DR. JOHN
--------
The latest release by Dr. John (Mac Rebennack), TELEVISION, has ex-Zappa
concert members Ronnie Cuber (baritone sax, horn arr. on some tracks)
and Randy Brecker (trumpet).
In his recently released autobiography, "Under a Hoodoo Moon", Dr. John
has some info. on when he played with Zappa in LA. He says that he was
asked to play the same 5-6 notes over and over again while a chorus made
wierd noises. He says that he asked to go to the bathroom and then never
returned. From his description, it appears to be the sessions for
FREAK OUT that produced either, "Help, I'm a Rock," or "Return of the
son of Monster Magnet."
GEORGE DUKE
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Released many jazz albums, some of which are:
"Faces in Reflection" - 1974
Ndugu (Leon Chancler) - drums
John Heard - bass
No FZ related material
"Feel" - 1974
Ndugu (Leon Chancler) - drums
John Heard - bass
FZ appears as Obdewl X on "Love" and "Old Slipper"
"The Aura Will Prevail" - 1975
cover of "Enchidna's Arf" and "Uncle Remus"
Ndugu (Leon Chancler) - drums
Alfonso Johnson - bass
No Zappa alumnus on this one.
"I Love the Blues, She Heard My Cry"
Tom Fowler - bass
Ruth Underwood - marimba, gongs, percussion
Bruce Fowler - trombone
Johnny 'Guitar' Watson - vocals, guitar
Not all the above musicians are featured on all tracks.
"Liberated Fantasies"
Napolean Murphy Brock - vocals
Ruth Underwood - voice of riddle
Played with Billy Cobham in 1974, 1976.
Released collaborations with Stanley Clarke (even doing "Louie Louie")
Also reasonably popular as a producer among young black artistes (sorry,
I can't name any!) Continues to release albums.
George Duke produced one or two songs for one of the last Miles Davis albums.
George is currently working on his next solo release. Recent projects
include production work for Johnny Gill and Anita Baker, music direction
for Comic Relief, incidental music for assorted children's television shows,
and "The Muir Woods Suite", an album of original orchestral music. (source:
Keyboard Magazine, April 1994)
George Duke did production and practically all instruments on the
Denise Williams world-wide hit "Let's hear it for the boy" sometime
in the mid/late 80s. I've seen an interview where from memory he
said that he did most of the instrumentation using memorymoogs
and minimoogs.
ANSLEY DUNBAR
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Played with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers prior to joining the Mothers.
Released "Blue Whale" in 1970 which included a sixteen minute "Willy the Pimp"
He was with Jefferson Starship. I don't even know if they exist now.
I think Aynsley Dunbar was in the original Journey for a time. Poor lad.
Yes, but that was pre-schlock (read: pre-Perry) Journey. Their first
album was actually pretty good -- sort of heavy fusion-influenced rock.
There is a band called Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation with a three albums
(according to holonet). I'm not sure from what era they are.
Aynsley Dunbar RETALIATION. From the late 60's/early 70's.
I have no idea what the music was like, or who he was retaliating
against. The ads for his albums (remember vinyl?) used to appear on a lot of
record sleeves in the early 70's. As said before he played with Mayall in
the 60's. I think from '66 to '67. Last week I got my hands on their first LP
in a second hand shop. It is produced by John Mayall. No release year on
the cover, but my guess is '68. The music is basically blues or R&B oriented,
including an organ. The bass player is Alex Dmchowski, alias Erroneous.
Aynsley had played with Dweezil (playing drums on one of Dweezil's albums ).
He left Jefferson Starhip quite a while ago, played one album with Whitesnake
before Vai joined. Was interviewed by Guitar Player for their special ZAPPA!
mag in 1992. (source: Zappa! mag & my record collection)
My friend Mike recently saw AD on tour with The Pat Travers Band.
Actually got to meet the man. Said he was *immensely* cool.
Very nice, well mannered and personable. Another snippet for
the archives on Zappa members.
If by "the drummer from Journey" you mean Aynsley Dunbar, I'd say yes,
he's one of the very few real rock drummers who can also play real jazz.
He did both with Zappa, who he played with for years. For rock, also check
out his playing with Bowie ("Pin-Ups"--some of his best recorded performances),
Nils Lofgren (first LP), Flo & Eddie, and Lou Reed ("Berlin" LP).
For jazz playing, listen to Zappa's "Grand Wazoo" and "Waka/Jawaka";
on both of these, his drumming is magnificent, and is "real" jazz playing,
not the fake stuff that rock drummers sometimes try to pull off.
TONY DURAN
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Found on the "For Real" by Ruben and the Jets album mentioned in some posts.
Should we remember that the lad played with Captain Beefheart? OK, we won't.
ROY ESTRADA
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Formed Little Feat with Lowell George. Was in band for first couple of
albums.
Last played with Zappa around 1979(around Baby Snakes time).
He of course spent several productive years in the Magic Band, under the
pseudonym Orejon.
There is the possibility of a cassette release of demos by Roy
on Billy James' Electric Yak Records out of North Carolina. Will post again
if I hear anything.
Here's a bit about Roy Estrada:
After Roy left Little Feat (I don't know why he left), he settled
here in Loveland, Colorado. (I don't know what trick of fate brought
him to Loveland, either. Perhaps Motherly not brotherly or otherly love.)
He raised a kid here and drove a truck through Colorado and Wyoming,
delivering movies to various theaters. I used to work at one of the
places where he made his deliveries.
But I didn't really meet Roy until (sometime in the late 70s) he came
up and introduced himself to some friends of mine who were playing at
a bar in Fort Collins (a somewhat bigger town north of Loveland). He said
he really liked their playing because they reminded him a lot of Little
Feat (they did a few Feat covers), and he wanted to jam. They subsequently did.
I got to meet Roy during one of these jams and/or one of the accompanying
informal parties. Roy's a regular sort of guy and (as you might expect)
a lot of fun. He also just liked to hang out, drink beer, work on cars, etc.
Not too long after my friends and Roy started hanging out, Zappa
came to Fort Collins to play at the university there (Colorado State).
Roy got everybody in to the rehearsal. Frank gave Roy a big hug and
had him sing some of the falsetto parts to show the new band how it
was done. (I guess Roy used to sing the really high stuff on the old
Mothers albums.) They hung out for the show.
After that, Roy started thinking about getting back into the music business.
He did some demo tapes with a few of my friends and tried to shop them
around with some producers in LA. I don't know if anything ever happened
with the tapes, or if they have any correlation to the Flying Yak demo
tapes you mention. Roy did start showing up on some of Zappa's stuff
again about this time. May just be coincidence.
Anyway, in April I talked to one of my buddies who did the demo tapes with
Roy. (This guy's name is Mark Radley, and he plays a pretty mean blues guitar.)
He's stayed in touch with Roy and said the Estrada man is out in LA now,
doing music and driving a truck on the side (maybe he's delivering movies
again). (Kind of amazing that someone with as much musical talent is kind
of out on the sidelines when there's so much crap that you hear. Nobody
ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American people, I guess.)
Janet Ferguson Hof
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I traded E-mail with Janet recently. She now works
in some capacity for Disney! (The very thought!). She appeared on George
Duke's album "The Aura Will Prevail," in 1975, along with the albums by
Frank that she appears on. She said she has done no other vocal work
up to this time. On the Duke album, she is billed as "Amanda B Reckonwith."
She told me that George Duke came up with the name. She also said she
was expecting to see Jeff Simmons soon (he lives in Seattle), and
had recently spoken to Cal Schenkel, who still lives in the Boston area.
FLO and EDDIE
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After leaving the Mothers, they released at least 5 albums with
the name Flo and Eddie.
1- The Phlorescent Leech and Eddie (1972)
2- Flo and Eddie (1973)
3- Illegal, Immoral and Fattening (1975)
4- Moving Targets (1976)
5- Rock Steady with Flo and Eddie (1981)
#4, Moving Targets, contained the song "Keep it Warm" which had quite a bit
of airplay.
#5, Rock Steady, was re-released in 1987 by Rhino records as "Prince Flo &
Jah Edward." This contains a reggae version of Happy Together!
Rhino also put out a compilation CD in 1987 called "The Best of Flo &
Eddie," which contained tracks from the first 4 albums above, plus songs
from the movies "Dirty Ducks" and "Texas Detour." Flo and Eddie have done
lots of soundtrack and backing vocal work. (They sing backup in the song
"Bang a gong.")
#3, Illegal Immoral and Fattening, was recently released on CD.
Also a disk called "The Turtles featuring Flo and Eddie Captured Live" was
released by Rhino in 1992. It contains the old Turtles hits like Happy
Together, Elanoire (sp), and others... The white hair and beard look
- - - different - but the voices are still the same.
Reunited the Turtles a year or two back and did a 20th or 25th anniversary
tour (or maybe even a 30th anniversary?).
Oops, I should have included Flo and Eddie in the news about being in the
studio with Terry and Duran Duran. Apparently they did backing vocals. This
is all verified information from Warren Cuccurullo himself.
Flo and Eddie were also the afternoon drive-time DJs at WXRK-FM
("K-Rock" -- Howard Stern's home station) in New York for a while, about
a year ago. Anybody know why they left the airwaves?
I really don't think they were cut out for that industry. Probably the
stresses were too much for them, and I don't expect they liked living in
New York. Howard thought they were idiots and used to poke fun at them
a lot (lucky for them they weren't in competition).
One snippet had two Flo & E impersonators talking about what washed up
boring has-been rock stars from the 70's they could call today. One of
them suggested the guitarrist from Blodwyn Pig. I died laughing.
They have been doing The Bottom Line in NYC for the last umteen years on New
Years. I saw them last year and two years before that as well. Excellent show.
They usually do a little segment on the Zappa years, but most of the show is
Turtles material (which is nice, but after a while, it takes on an oldies show
feel). They usually do the Sanzini Brothers. A bit slower than on the Illegal
Immoral and Fattening album, but still worth while. Last year they did a long
Nikki Hoi segment. I have a homebrew bootleg of the show from 90-91. They did a
Batman spoof in the beginning, and a Menudo spoof after the intermission.
Flo and Eddie have played at the Bottom Line in New York practically every
New Year's Eve weekend that I can remember since the mid 70's. On one of
these occasions in the late 70's, Frank Zappa showed up and played a few
songs with them. Last year at the Bottom Line they did a large chunk of
side one of We're only in it for the Money for "all the Zappa fans out
there," which was odd because they didn't sing on that album. Most of the
audience had no idea what was going on, but they did a great job.
>Flo and Eddie
And if you think about it, flow and eddy are two things that water does...
pretty neat pun huh?
I can't believe no one here has mentioned the movie Dirty Duck. Has no one here
ever seen this? It's an animated movie by Flo and Eddie with the songs Cheap as
the movie theme (now this is a cheap little movie), Karma Sutra Time, We're
Living in a Jungle and a few others.
Flo & Eddie also did backup vocals on the Alice Cooper album _From the Inside_.
For you completists out there (I haven't seen this mentioned yet),
Flo & Eddie did the prominent background vocals on Springsteen's
"Hungry Heart".
They wrote/performed the music for the Care Bears.
Luckily we don't get this in the UK, so no idea what it is/was.
They also appeared on the 'Gumby' compo album (some sort of
conservation doodad), along with Dweezil.
Also, I heard that they did the backing vocals for Marc Bolan's "Bang a Gong".
Only 70% sure on this one. I think my source was _I'm with the band_
Yeah I know some of you folks here don't care much for the F & E era, but
for those of us who do, let me say that they did excellent versions
tonight (12/94) at the Bottom Line of the following:
Magic Fingers Mystery Roach
Lonesome Cowboy Burt The Air
Call Any Vegetable Eddie Are You Kidding
We caght the Dec 31st 1994 early Bottom Line show. They did
a buncha Turtles, then announced it was "opera time" Proceeded
to do some 200 motels (inc. Lonesome Cowboy Burt), Eddie are You
Kidding and Call any Vegatable. Voices in fine form. Mark mentioned
that Howard is now a restarauteur in Oregon; Howard said Mark is
back in college! "I made the Dean's list!" crowed Mark.They
mentioned the anniversary of the death of F.Z. and said "we love
doin' this shit" .
THE FOWLERS (all five or six of 'em)
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The Fowlers appeared behind Stan Ridgway's vocals on "The Cannon Song"
in the Kurt Weill/Bert Brecht tribute album, Lost In The Stars.
Has a disk out with most of the brass/woodwind section of the '88 band
titled BREAKFAST FOR DINOSAURS.
"Breakfast For Dinosaurs". To put my impression of this one i
perspective I should first say that I *did* like "Hunter" a lot although
I can understand why you may have not have. Some of it sort of comes
across as stuff that might make it onto a 'soft' jazz radio playlist.
And although that kind of stuff usually makes me want to stick my head
in the potty and hurl... I dunno, I can't help but liking it. I find
myself putting it on if I'm reading or surfing the 'Net and don't want
to get _too_ drawn into the music so I can stay focused on what I'm doing.
It *will* draw me out and transport me sometimes though, so at least for
me, there is something happening here. "Dinosaurs" also falls into this
'commercial' style although there are a few more kick_ass numbers on this
one. Vinnie Colaiuta is kinda wow on the three numbers he appears on and
Tom Fowler does some electric bass stuff that gets me twitchin'. Ike just
appears on one tune and although it isn't the best thing I've heard him do,
this song has a real nice full ensemble instrumental break in it.
The electric guitarist on this album, Mike O'Neill does some great
vamping throughout.
Steve Fowlers' "Captured". This one doesn't really get
me too excited. It's nice. It has its' moments. It has a decent vocal
number with Marvin Fowler singing. Mike O'Neill is present and
provides some swank guitar. Chester is perfection. If I wandered into a
club and these guys were playing this I'd clap real loud and mean it.
If my apart- ment were burning down though it would be way down on the
list of stuff to get rescued from the music collection.
Steve Fowler also has two releases: 'Captured' and 'The Last Blue Sky'.
Most of this stuff (except 'Ants Can Count' on Terra Nova Records) is on
the Brothers' own Fossil Records. Some of them were also in a band called
Airpocket who had albums released in Japan, I believe.
The Fowlers (Walt, Brice, Steve and Tom) in "The Ears Have it"
BRUCE FOWLER
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Bruce Fowler plays on:
Woody Herman -- Somewhere, 1969 w/ Bill Chase, Sal Nistico, Ronnie Cuber
(who is on FZ's "In New York")
Joey Sellars -- Something for Nothing, 1989 w/ Kei Akagi
I remembered the title to the Bruce Fowler/Phil Teele LP (soon to be CD).
It's called 'Synthetic Division'. Jolly odd it is too...
Bruce has two solo CDs:
"Entropy", 1993
Straight-ahead jazz-rock. First, the one that really knocked my
socks off is the one that you (DH) already have - "Entropy".
Did ya notice that Tom is on acoustic bass all the way on this.
In fact there is no electric anything; no guitar, no synths..
HEY! *Its the Fowler Brothers Unpluged*. The song "A Bash Fit
For a King" is worth the whole price of the disk. Try sitting
through that one without moving. (For extra credit: What old
American TV show theme song gets quoted by the piano at the
beginning of the last section of this tune?).
This disk goes on my top shelf.
Bruce Fowler: Trombone and Words
Steve Fowler: Also Sax, Flute
Tom Fowler: Acoustic Bass, Violin
Walt Fowler: Trumpet, Flugelhorn
Albert Wing: Tenor Sax
Chester Thompson: Drums
Billy Childs: Piano
Kei Akagi: Piano
Kurt McGettrick: Baritone Sax, Eb Contrabass Clarinet
Phil Teele: Bass Trombone
Suzette Moriarty: French Horn
"Ants Can Count" , 1990
This baby to me comes across as more of a collection of brass chamber
ensemble pieces than a jazz thing. Eight out of the eleven cuts
are sans rhythm section and feature, besides Bruce and his brothers,
Steve only plays sax on one tune and sticks to flute elsewhere.
If you were to get me in a headlock and not let go till I said something
critical about this CD then maybe after a while I'd blurt out that the
production could have been better and that a couple of tunes end a tad
abruptly. Otherwise, to my ears this is a good listen. Check out Bruce
doing circular breathing on the solo number called "One Man One Bone".
I will never understand how anybody can do that.
Bruce Fowler: trombone
Walt Fowler: trumpet
Steve Fowler: flute & alto saz
Suzette Moriarty: french horn
Phil Teele: bass trombone
Ed Fowler: piono & bass
Tom Fowler: bass
Ed Mann: percussion (two tracks)
Billy Mintz: drums (two tracks)
Chester Thompson: drums (one track)
Clark Woodard: drums (one track)
Bruce Fowler appears in the Robert Altman film Short Cuts, which
is currently showing, at least in NYC. Bruce has the part of the
trombone player, oddly enough, in a small jazz combo in an LA
nightclub called the Low Note. He's in quite a few scenes
throughout the movie, and is seen and heard playing the
trombone, but has no spoken lines. The movie has an all-star
cast; among the other musicians in the film are Tom Waits and
Huey Lewis, who both have substantial speaking roles. That band also
included Greg Cohen on bass and NRBQ's Terry Adams on piano.
Bruce is credited with orchestration on the sound track for the
soon-to-be-releasedLion King (this is a Disney animation with
music by Elton John, who also sings the title cut, and lyrics by
Tim Rice).
That's not the only thing he's been up to. This film thing seems to be Bruce's
new trend---he was also responsible for orchestrating a musak-style version of
"Superfreak" for the movie "Batman Returns" a couple of years ago.
I saw his name in the credits of "Speed" last night. I think he was one
of three orchestrators/musical directors/soloists, I can't remember exactly.
I saw Bruce playing in Vinnie Golea's (sp?) band at the L.A.
Art museum a couple weeks back. The music was interesting space-jazz
that I enjoyed, but my jazz-fan ( and Fowler/Zappa fan) friend who came
along, was not as receptive. Very long pieces. In fact, I think the
last set may have been one long song.
Bruce Fowler also did some work with Oingo Boingo in the '80s. Check out the
"Boingo Alive" and "Dead Man's Party" CDs. There may be others, but since my
collection is small, I cant' say for sure.
TOM FOWLER
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Tom has a solo release 'Heartscapes' which sounds a bit like Level 42.
Also, see the "Fowler's "
WALT FOWLER
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Walt is on Chad Wackerman's latest, The View.
Walt has a solo CD due for release soon.
I just found Walt Fowler playing trumpet on 70's Johnny Guitar Watson
albums "Funk beyond the call of dutry" and "A real mother". I got them
for years but never have seen Walt. Credits for studio engeneer go to
Kerry McNabb, who also dis this job on a bunch of Zappa recordings.
Both of these Watson records are great, btw. (If your into 70
cool-kinda-funk-blues-pop.
BUNK GARDNER
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Is a member of the "Grandmothers" (or was it Buzz ?) currently touring in
Europe. Also in this band are Jimmy Carl Black and Don Preston.
LOWELL GEORGE
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Appeared on the GTO's album, "Permanent Damage"
Formed Little Feat with Roy Estrada.
Passed away in 1978, shortly after his album "Thanks, I'll Eat It Here"
came out.
New CD with old stuff (pre-Little Feat) released in 1993 - "Lightning
Rod Man". Lightning Rod Man actually features FZ as producer
and stuff, as well as Ian Underwood and other Mothers. It was
recorded before he joined the MOI by a band called The Factory.
Played Shakuhachi (bamboo flute) on Akiko Yano (later Mrs Ryuichi
Sakamoto)' debut album.
JIM GORDON
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Played Drums on Apostrophe, and is probably best known for co-writing Layla
with Eric (God! It's God! I see God!) Clapton.
His current claim to fame is that he's locked away forever in an insane
asylum for chopping up his mother, after becoming convinced that she was the
devil.
JOHN GUERIN
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The drummer on Joni Mitchell's "Mingus" is John Guerin. John Guerin and
bass player Max Bennett were both in Tom Scotts band that backed Joni
in the Early seventies. They can be heard on "Miles of Aisles".
Guerin, Bennett and Tom Scott appear on Mitchells solo records from the
mid seventies. Bennett and Guerin appear on "King Kong, Jean-Luc
Ponty plays the music of FZ".
If this is the same guy who goes by John Guerin, and plays drums, in the
mid 70's he played with the LA Express with Tom Scott, I believed he was either
married to or "going steady" with Joni Mitchell at this time as he
played on several cuts on her "Court & Spark" Album I believe. He also
played drums on a very good studio big-band album written by Pat Williams
which contained the oft played by college bands tune entitled "Threshold".
I believe John was a TOP call LA studio drummer in this era.
BOB HARRIS - two guys
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Frank Zappa employed two guys named Bob Harris. The '70s Bob
can be seen in the picture gracing the contents page of one of the tribute
mags that came out about Frank after he died. It's a picture of the Flo/Eddie
band. He's right above Frank's left shoulder. Don't know where he is now.
FZ said in an interview in Society Pages that the one who played in the
Flo & Eddie Mothers is not the same as the one who played with Zappa
in the early 80s.
Thana Harris was the wife of Bob Harris #2. Her vocals on Sleep Dirt
were not recorded at the original sessions, but were overdubbed years
later for the CD release. The 80s Bob Harris lives in central Colorado
and performs on the weekends with his wife, Thana.
There are two photos of Bob Harris #1 in the recent Goldmine
article. In one of these, he's playing a trumpet--just like
Bob Harris #2. But I do recall FZ saying in an interview in
Society Pages that the two Bob Harrises were different guys.
SUGARCANE HARRIS
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I haven't seen anything from SUGARCANE HARRIS in years, but he's no spring
chicken anymore. I did see lots of his jazz/blues albums from the 70's
on a German label in a used record store in New Orleans recently, and now I'm
sorry I didn't buy them.
Somebody told me a couple of years ago that Sugercane had died. I hope
I'm wrong on this one.
I got to see him in LA (Long Beach actually?) in the early 70s. I've lost
my memory of this but it may have been with Dewey (his original pairing,
Don and Dewey - cf. Freak Out). I love his Epic album Sugarcane (E30027),
produced by Johnny Otis, with a back cover by Rick Griffin. A wonderful
musician. I used to live in his little house.
Around 87-88 there was this band called Tupelo Chain sex. Can't remember much
about them; I know they toured North America and had one or two lps. Guess they
were based in California but that's not entirely sure. From an interview I read
in some "alternative" rock mag of the time Sugarcane Harris was sporadically in
and out of the band; the reason he was not a regular is that he kept having
trouble with the law and had to do stints in prison. Drugs, I think.
I hope this is a helpful bit of information. Discography-wise, after his
great debut on Epic he recorded two (I think) albums with blues guitarist
Harvey Mandel. One was named "Pure Food and Drug Act" and had a cover of
"Eleanor Rigby". Then as you said he did three or four albums on the German
MPS label. I remember one of these was a live set with Robert Wyatt and had
a cover of Horace Silver's "Song for my Father"; the lp was called "Sugarcane's
got the blues". Another album was named "Cup full of Dreams".
As Aynsely Dunbar he played with John Mayall. However not at the same
time. Sugercane was with Mayall in the early 70's. At least he participate
on the double LP "Ten Years have Gone" released 1973.
RALPH HUMPHREY
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I have a friend who studied at GIT (Guitar Institute of Technology, I think),
three years ago. He told me that Ralph was teaching drumming at PIT
(Percussion Institute of Technology), and referred to him as a "short, very
kind guy with a big beard. Ralph's speciality obviously was polyrythmics
(which it should be if you've played with FZ). He also had a band with
other guys at the school, called Outside Men, who played "interesting,
experimental music".
My friend also told me that Ralph played with Michael Ruff, an american
FM-rock guitarist.
Drums on Manhatten Transfer's "The Christmas Album" (1992).
ELLIOT INGBER
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Elliot Ingber was in the Mothers at the time of "Freak Out" (oddly
enough, in those days FZ did not consider himself good enough to be
the lead guitarist in his own band!) but left shortly thereafter to
form the Fraternity of Man with Richie Hayward and Martin Kibbee
(who was the "Fred Martin" credited on some Little Feat songs).
They did only one LP that I know of, which had the original version
of "Don't Bogart That Joint" (which became world famous when "Easy
Rider" came out), as well as a version of "Oh No" a few years before
FZ would put it out himself on "Weasels Ripped My Flesh".
Eliot Ingber Was the lead guitarist of the short-lived but
notorious *Fraternity of Man* (of *Don't Bogart That Joint* fame)
c. 1968-69.
Of course, Hayward hooked with Lowell George and Roy Estrada
(when the Mothers disbanded in 69) to form Little Feat, which is
where the Feat/Ingber connection comes in.
Elliot's tenure with Beefheart was brief; he joined right after
"Lick My Decals Off" and played most of the tour in support of the
record but quit midway due to (supposedly) a distaste for life on
the road. He was christened Winged Eel Fingerling and did record
the next CB album "The Spotlight Kid" but didn't tour with him any
further. I heard a rumor he is now a mailman.
He was also involved with the Mallard project (2 albums) -
which is the Magic band (sans captain) and with real (??) names -
their eponymously titled first album (on virgin) is available
and well recommended.
There's also some Ingber-material on "looking up grannies dress"
by the Grandmothers. That's right. And on the first Grandmothers
album titled "The Grandmothers," (1980 Rhino Records) there are two
songs by Elliot Ingber:
"A Bit Blue" "We Don't Feed No Livestock Here"
Elliot Ingber - guitar Elliot Ingber - lead guitar
Johnny Dyre - harp Ira Ingber - washboard
Larry Taylor - guitar "Lil' Johnny" - guitar & vocal
[recorded in the early '70s] Richie Hayward - drums
[recorded in 1971]
The biography on the album cover says "Elliot Ingber lives in
Hollywood and keeps himself in shape by riding a 15-speed racer
and drinking lots of water. He's been writing his very different
blues and rock." [note: circa 1980]
The second Grandmothers album titled "Looking Up Granny's Dress"
(1982 Rhino Records) also has a song by Elliot Ingber on it
"Gingerwail"
Elliot Ingber - lead guitar
Ira Ingber - guitar & bass
Don U. Matic - drums
[recorded in ????]
EDDIE JOBSON
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Before joining FZ Jobson had played in Curved Air and Roxy Music and had done
various studio dates / guest apearances (sp?). After leaving FZ he formed
"UK" together with Bill Bruford, Allan Holdsworth and John Wetton.
After the first album (called "UK") Holdsworth and Bruford left. Bruford
was replaced by none other than Terry Bozzio. In this line up they recorded
"Danger Money" and "Night after Night", a live album. "UK" split up
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